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Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess SuperDork
9/10/08 2:07 p.m.

Of course it's weird. I said Arkansas, didn't I?

That's just how they do it here. You sue the State of Arkansas for a court order, forcing the state to grant you a title if a conventional title (manufacturer's certificate of origin, previous title, etc.) does not exist. I suspect it was set up that way for several reasons: 1. To discourage people from being "creative" with titles. If you have to go through that much trouble and go before a judge in a court of law, you are most likely legit. They understand Hillbilly in Little Rock, have no doubt about that. 2. To release liability from the state for issuing a title. "Hey, we had to give that title, he had a court order."

There was no previous title on the Locost. It was a pile of stainless tubes. First you get a certificate of "No, I don't see no VIN on this thing" from the highway patrol, then someone in Little Rock gives you a VIN but no title, then you sue the state for the title, then the judge signs the court order (that you write, not the court), then you go to the tax office where they say "No, we're not going to give you a title without a court order" and you hand them a court order and they say "OK, if we have to, here's your title." It's actually a lot easier than many other states. I understand Taxachussettes is virtually impossible, for example. This was the first time I ever sued anyone, and I learned a whole lot during the process. Sort of like Billy3Esq going down to the drug store with a sinus infection.

VWguyBruce
VWguyBruce Reader
9/10/08 4:27 p.m.

Well, I just spoke with PennDOT(PA DMV) about my title issue. A very pleasant young man named Josh said that since I'm going for a Florida title and they don't require a notary then I will have no problem not having the PA title notarized. That was way too easy

SVreX
SVreX SuperDork
9/10/08 9:02 p.m.
VWguyBruce wrote: Sounds like there's a fair share of Florida and Pennsylvania folks on here so I'll ask. I bought my Challenge car from guy who never transferred the Pennsylvania title to his name. The original owner signed it and dated it but left everything else blank, which is good. There's a spot for a notary seal so do I HAVE to have his signature notarized for Pennsylvania to release the title to Florida? I'm applying for a Florida title since that's where my residency is. Would Florida even care?

GA sure cared. A lot.

I've got a car sitting out back with the same situation, from PA. Can't get it titled to save my life.

I think states care a lot more about out of state titles, because they are basically enforcing someone else's rules. PA said notary, and even though GA doesn't require one, they sure had to have one on that PA title.

VWguyBruce
VWguyBruce Reader
9/11/08 4:26 a.m.

Hmmmm, maybe that was too easy. I'll speak to the friendly ladies at the Florida DMV today and find out for sure.

Sorry for the threadjack. Hopefully all this helps someone in the end.

JThw8
JThw8 Dork
9/11/08 9:38 a.m.

NJ could care less if a PA title is notarized or not...FWIW

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