Tom1200
Tom1200 PowerDork
11/29/23 5:01 p.m.

Some of you may have noticed I put my Formula 500 up for sale and at the same time I'm working on a deal for a Foxbody Mustang.

This all got started when I decided to just instruct at an event earlier this month; I didn't feel like loading up the Datsun and chugging an hour and twenty minutes each way in the van. 

My wife suggested I buy a cheap Miata for HPDE, Time Trials and Autocross but those really don't exist; at least not decent ones. I already have one momentum car so hence the Foxbody.

I am now five to seven years out from retirement; I say seven years because my wife suggested I do a year or two more so I could by my dream race car. Defining the dream car is now been made difficult.

Typically it would be something like a Formula Super Vee. My wife is such a sweetheart but she really doesn't like me in vintage open wheel cars, she's under the impression they aren't the safest things.........maybe because I tell her old open wheel cars aren't the safest things and one needs to drive accordingly.

So the question is now what?

The easy answer would be a 70s or 80s 911 but I find them to be obscenely overpriced for what they are. I could never bring myself to spend the current market value even though I love driving them.

The current plan is vintage races for the Datsun and local SCCA time trials in the Sport Class with the Mustang.

I  like little death traps (mostly because 15K-25K buys something cool) so I'd love to hear some ideas on what you guys find cool when it comes to production cars. 

 

 

  

 

NY Nick
NY Nick GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/29/23 5:58 p.m.

I hear there is a sweet Cadillac CTS-V for sale for $30k, includes some spares...

 

my friend races a BMW, I think it's a 128? Full race prep, caged and all that. It's fast as can be and other than brakes and tires and fluids I don't think he has done much to it in 4 years. 

gixxeropa
gixxeropa GRM+ Memberand Reader
11/29/23 6:00 p.m.

I've seen the panoz Esperante race cars for reasonable prices, plus I'm pretty sure they use Mustang drivetrains so maintenance shouldn't be awful. Not sure what class they would run in

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/29/23 6:10 p.m.

I love racing my BMW (E46 M3 built for NASA ST4) but it's not a 15-25K car.

 

L5wolvesf
L5wolvesf Dork
11/29/23 6:58 p.m.
Tom1200 said:

I  like little death traps (mostly because 15K-25K buys something cool) so I'd love to hear some ideas on what you guys find cool when it comes to production cars. 

I haven't paid much attention to what has changed in SCCA GT or Production classes but something in the area of GT2 3 or 4 or E-Production.

Tom1200
Tom1200 PowerDork
11/29/23 7:00 p.m.

In reply to gixxeropa :

The Esperante cars peaked my interest as will.

Tom1200
Tom1200 PowerDork
11/29/23 7:06 p.m.
codrus (Forum Supporter) said:

I love racing my BMW (E46 M3 built for NASA ST4) but it's not a 15-25K car.

 

This is part of my open wheel addiction; 15K-30K will buy a car that will do between 1:25 and 1:30 lap times at Laguna Seca.

Tom1200
Tom1200 PowerDork
11/29/23 7:10 p.m.

In reply to L5wolvesf :

Larry,

A budget GT3 car always seemed like a good way to go; you could run a moderately tuned motor that would do several seasons.

There was a tube frame RX7 and one of my last vintage races; the driver was kinda slow but the car looked fun. 

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
11/29/23 8:45 p.m.

Don't half ass it. Do a complete 180. Motorcycles. Theres a CB160 series.

L5wolvesf
L5wolvesf Dork
11/29/23 9:17 p.m.
Tom1200 said:

In reply to L5wolvesf :

There was a tube frame RX7 and one of my last vintage races; the driver was kinda slow but the car looked fun. 

To me RX7s are a high maintenance race car. Isn't parts availability gonna be an issue?

My E-Prod thought was you would have an open top but no open wheels. I always picture MBs there but I imagine its a Miata thing now.

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/29/23 9:39 p.m.
Tom1200 said:
codrus (Forum Supporter) said:

I love racing my BMW (E46 M3 built for NASA ST4) but it's not a 15-25K car.

 

This is part of my open wheel addiction; 15K-30K will buy a car that will do between 1:25 and 1:30 lap times at Laguna Seca.

Yeah, best I've done there with my M3 is a low 1:36.  With the new grip from the repave there's at least a 34 in it (if not a 33!), though.

But you asked about production cars. :)

Tom1200
Tom1200 PowerDork
11/29/23 11:13 p.m.
Appleseed said:

Don't half ass it. Do a complete 180. Motorcycles. Theres a CB160 series.

I raced a 125 GP bike from 1987 to 1990.........

Tom1200
Tom1200 PowerDork
11/29/23 11:16 p.m.

In reply to codrus (Forum Supporter) :

I am thinking a tube frame car will be the way to go. Something around 2000lbs and 300 hp

Tom1200
Tom1200 PowerDork
11/29/23 11:17 p.m.

In reply to L5wolvesf :

My thought was grab a RX7 roller and fit a small block V8.

L5wolvesf
L5wolvesf Dork
11/30/23 9:28 a.m.
Tom1200 said:

In reply to L5wolvesf :

My thought was grab a RX7 roller and fit a small block V8.

Old school SBF / SBC or something newer?

Tom1200
Tom1200 PowerDork
11/30/23 11:45 a.m.
L5wolvesf said:
Tom1200 said:

In reply to L5wolvesf :

My thought was grab a RX7 roller and fit a small block V8.

Old school SBF / SBC or something newer?

It would have to be old school SBF because my fabricator is a Ford guy............he gives me a great rate as long as he likes the project. 

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