Cherokee vs. Tahoe

Hey, if you're looking for a good tahoe cheap, I can hook you up. Father is selling his for $3k.

Bobzilla wrote:

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:

yamaha wrote: :rofl: miata owner vs vette owner..........kinda sad really.

Don't you have a Taurus TO GO FIX OR REPAIR DAILY or something?

Fixed that for you.

Oh, bob, I don't know if I'd be making fun of another auto maker right now, based on your Corvette's status.

dculberson wrote:

Bobzilla wrote:

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:

yamaha wrote: :rofl: miata owner vs vette owner..........kinda sad really.

Don't you have a Taurus TO GO FIX OR REPAIR DAILY or something?

Fixed that for you.

Oh, bob, I don't know if I'd be making fun of another auto maker right now, based on your Corvette's status.

It's not GM's fault my car isn't running right. It's that cheap engine builder I used. It was runnign fine before he ripped it apart.

Bobzilla wrote:

dculberson wrote:

Bobzilla wrote:

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:

yamaha wrote: :rofl: miata owner vs vette owner..........kinda sad really.

Don't you have a Taurus TO GO FIX OR REPAIR DAILY or something?

Fixed that for you.

Oh, bob, I don't know if I'd be making fun of another auto maker right now, based on your Corvette's status.

It's not GM's fault my car isn't running right. It's that cheap engine builder I used. It was runnign fine before he ripped it apart.

Assuming we use a REALLY loose definition of "running fine." MISSING piston rings =! "running fine."

No, it had all of it's rings. It was just missing pieces of the pistons themselves.

Bobzilla wrote:

dculberson wrote:

Bobzilla wrote:

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:

yamaha wrote: :rofl: miata owner vs vette owner..........kinda sad really.

Don't you have a Taurus TO GO FIX OR REPAIR DAILY or something?

Fixed that for you.

Oh, bob, I don't know if I'd be making fun of another auto maker right now, based on your Corvette's status.

It's not GM's fault my car isn't running right. It's that cheap engine builder I used. It was runnign fine before he ripped it apart.

Sure, sure, still something about glass houses and throwing stones. ;-)

Don't make the ginger angry. You won't like him when he's angry.

N Sperlo wrote:

16vCorey wrote: We can't keep the engines, transmissions, or transfer cases in stock for the late '90s Tahoe/Yukon/Suburban/etc. I sell them as soon as I get one. The Jeep stuff collects dust.

says it all

yeah it does. it says all the tahoes/suburbans have 250K+ miles on them now and are starting to need things replaced, and the jeeps all rotted to dust and have been junked long ago so nobody needs replacement parts

every late 90's jeep around here that is left on the road is riddled with cancer. usually see them left on the road here too, with suspension mounting points rotted off so important parts are dangling.

:)

i'd love a rust free southern cherokee, they just look cool. and inline 6's make me smile

i do love my burb though, and it was just old enough to have the TBI 350 and manual floor shifter for the 4x4 and not the pushbutton electronic stuff. 178k and working hard every day.

<---- Rust free Cherokee owner with 184k miles.

I mean LITERALLY rust free. Not even any underneath. At all. Midwest its entire life.

Thanks for all the comments so far! I think I will rule out Tahoes. What about full size Broncos?

My AADD is kicking in again and I haven't even bought anything yet. I'm even looking at OOBS (old old body style) late '80s - early '90's ford trucks....maybe i should turn this into a what vehicle thread to see if there is something I am missing.

Requirements: ~$2500 4x4 with light to medium off-road capabilities, not rock crawling
Reliable as a stone
Cheap to maintain
NO rust!
Light towing/hauling

Prefered:
Manual trans.

This will basically be a winter DD/chore duty vehicle with some fun off-road thrown in the mix. I am not afraid to travel to get what I need as long as it gets me back.

Thanks!

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: <---- Rust free Cherokee owner with 184k miles. I mean LITERALLY rust free. Not even any underneath. At all. Midwest its entire life.

my 180k cherokee is rust free too, but so are the burbs. seriously guys us cherokee and burb owners need to unite....they are both berkeleying awesome

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: <---- Rust free Cherokee owner with 184k miles. I mean LITERALLY rust free. Not even any underneath. At all. Midwest its entire life.

You should send it to Chrysler and tell them to use it for breeding purposes. It's obviously genetically superior to every other XJ!

patgizz wrote: every late 90's jeep around here that is left on the road is riddled with cancer. usually see them left on the road here too, with suspension mounting points rotted off so important parts are dangling.

So ONLY cherokees rust in Ohio? Here in Michigan, Cherokees rust, 'burbs rust, heck even plastic rusts up here. And you got 250K on your 'burb. Good. I've had 4 jeeps with over 250,000 miles on them. They are good vehicles, just like the same gen burbans.
Comparing Cherokees and suburbans is pointless anyway. They are apples and oranges. The OP basically said "I'm thinking about heating either an apple or an orange. what one is better." My answer is, "if you want an apple, eat a granny smith. If you want an orange, peel it and go." Of course there's always someone that says "you want either an apple or an orange? You should get a banana"

You can't go wrong with either. If you want to tow more than once in a while get the burban. If you want better fuel economy and to wheel every now and again, get the XJ. If you want to pay more for a vehicle that rusts more than either of them, get the banana.

patgizz wrote: every late 90's jeep around here that is left on the road is riddled with cancer. usually see them left on the road here too, with suspension mounting points rotted off so important parts are dangling.

Come on...I'll give you that the rocker panels like to rust, but I think you're going a bit far. I have never seen serious rot on the suspension bits and I've had a bunch of XJs. My 2007 Tahoe frame rails look like they were born in salt water...I'm praying they don't rot.

You can like Tahoes/Burbs but don't be hatin' on the XJ. They will get you in and out of some serious trail runs with a smile on your face...oh and they make a better autocrosser too ;)

i'm not hating on anything. i see tons of rusted cherokees here. 90% of the ones i see on CL(and i look because i actually kinda want one) say "floor gone only good for wheeling" or other such things that make it a parts truck.

my burb is a lifetime cleveland truck and has some rust but no real cancer and the floors still have the factory paint on the underside. it just seems that there are way more good looking not cancerous fullsize gm suv's around here than anything else their age that is not a plastic saturn.

don't get me started on all the 07+ rams i see with nothing left above the wheels. cleveland winters are murder on cars especially since they started using that brine crap instead of rock salt.

back on topic - OP - go somewhere with a bunch of SUV's and just drive them all.

We all know that the word of one guy, when it goes against the experience of the masses, is law!!
Michigan is hard on trucks here. I see rusty XJ's, Suburbans, Explorers, 'yotas, etc. But I now know that in Cleveland, XJ's rot in places they they don't in other parts of the country, and suburbans don't rust much at all.
And here I thought the south west was where my next car was coming from.

In Columbus, I have looked at an XJ where the bumper was literally held on with only rust. The suspension was almost collapsed from rust.

Chevys rust too but they've got a full frame. The XJ has a lot less to go through before they're dangerous.

Well now that we've established that every car enthusiast who lives in the northeast is a sucker who spends all their time sifting through rusty E36 M3 cars...

I have a friend with a semi-rusty cherokee. It's from Hawaii. It was exposed to a lot of salt.. you know, at the beach. Living it up.

I agree that both cherokees and suburbans can be great if you use them for what they are good at. And i agree they are apples and oranges.

I kind of like later broncos as OP mentioned but did they come as manual at all?

I'd be inclined to say Tahoe. Similar to how the other folks are saying that if you don't need to tow, go Cherokee, I'll go a different route: If you don't need to go off-roading, go Tahoe. Much more comfortable, nearly as reliable, and similar costs and gas mileage. Oh, and much more comfortable.

Vigo wrote: I kind of like later broncos as OP mentioned but did they come as manual at all?

Yes, anything the F-150's could be had with, Bronco's had as well. Mine was a 351 auto, friends Bronco was 300 I6 with a 5 speed (M5OD iirc). (LOVED the 5speed btw)

Earlier Broncos had a BW 4 speed and I know astronger ZF5 is not too difficult to swap in.

Having driven a 300/5spd f150 i have to say i dont love DRIVING it, but i REALLY like the thought of it. I love an engine with 7 main bearings and a gear-driven cam, and a manual.. It gives the impression of being built for durability/reliability above all else and there's a real appeal to that! Id be pretty happy to end up with a 300/5spd truck for the right price. I can probably make it more pleasing to drive, but you cant take something like a 4.6mod motor and change it to make it as simple as a 300 i-6..

Why don't you put a topper on this and be done with it?

'89 F150, 300 I-6, 4 speed manual, 4x4, $1300

That's pretty much my dream truck right there. Anyone in Florida who wants a cheap truck needs to keep an eye on Ocala4Sale; they always have a handful in the under $1500 section. There's also an '89 F150 V8 with a 5-speed.

We are really spoiled in Florida. Cars/trucks generally do not rust here. Beach Rescue vehicles, ok, they do, but normal use, no. I read about the misery of northern rust buckets and just can't comprehend what that is like to deal with. Come on down, by your rust free whatever and drive back. You can have some fun while you're here!

So far ive hauled a truck full of rust free body parts to ohio for a paying customer, and located and purchased 5 not very rusted dodge rampages for a buyer in michigan who came down, cut up two for parts, and pulled 3 back to michigan.

Getting rust free stuff from the south is definitely a real option. It has even been shown that if you pay me enough i will jump through hoops to get northern car guys good parts and cars.