Civic Type R info released today. Wood?

JNC has the full scoop. If only I was Pete Leno with a big garage.

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I'm sure the performance is unreal, but, woof, is that thing hard on the ol' eyeballs/

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That has literally nothing to interest me. If there's wood involved, it's balsa for me.

Taking a page from the Lamborghini book of styling. A few big scoops are tacky, 100 scoops all over the car are awesome.
This one pulls at my heart strings. There are better cars for the money on paper, and probably on pavement too, but middle aged me wants to be boy racer me and drive one around. I wonder what the color pallette will be?

For the love of J C Whitney.........that thing is ready to generate some serious vortices.

Is the styling department at Honda now in the hands of 12-year-olds?

Man I LOVE that.

I could live with it with a wing delete. Not a huge fan of the new Civic styling in general but at least this has the performance to back up its ridiculousness. I certainly like the interior more than its Ford competition.

There is a new Civic in my neighborhood in an eye searing shade of green. It's a youthful car. They TypeR is a boy racer car. Honda is building cars that might have relevance to people under 40 for the first time in a while. That's good.

I was poised over my keyboard, ready to spew the hate. Nope. I love it. I can't explain why.

I like the how the center tailpipe is smaller than the two outers. Don't think I've seen that before.

Also, I'm curious what Honda did to make that kind of power manageable in a FWD. It's still hard to believe how powerful cars have gotten lately. This Civic is putting out mid-90s Mustang Cobra numbers!

I dig the interior, and the performance aspect is impressive. But there is no amount of cool interior or performance that would make me the least bit interested in driving something that looks like that. Honestly I would be embarrassed to show up to work or to pick up a date driving that thing. And other than the automotive enthusiast sector who actually know what it is, the rest of the general populace will just think someone really loves Pep Boys. Then again, I have the one "boring" looking WRX (with all the fun stuff where you can't see it), so clearly someone like me who likes the stealth performance cars (with no speeding tickets in over a decade thanks to it) isnt' the market for this anyhow.

Sad, because outside of the Civic, I've really been impressed with Honda's styling in the last few years.

Meh. Honda went from making a great chassis that handled but was underpowered, to making a butt-ugly car that has massive HP just to make headlines. From what I have read overseas, it's too much power for FWD, too much HP for the lackluster chassis and looking at it makes you vomit.

I hope I'm wrong, I want to love Honda's again. But only a mother could love that face.

Looks a lot like an STI, so it's not that extreme compared to what's already on the market.

Too over the top for me, but I'm over 40 and looking for a little more subtlety.

thatsnowinnebago wrote: I like the how the center tailpipe is smaller than the two outers. Don't think I've seen that before.

Note, the small exhaust is for the external wastegate dump here

NEALSMO wrote: Looks a lot like an STI, so it's not that extreme compared to what's already on the market. Too over the top for me, but I'm over 40 and looking for a little more subtlety.

I'm over 40 and drive a WRX. The WRX looks as mature and subtle as a Jag XJ6 compared to the Civic R lol....

pinchvalve wrote: Meh. Honda went from making a great chassis that handled but was underpowered, to making a butt-ugly car that has massive HP just to make headlines. From what I have read overseas, it's too much power for FWD, too much HP for the lackluster chassis and looking at it makes you vomit. I hope I'm wrong, I want to love Honda's again. But only a mother could love that face.

Wasn't the Integra type r more than 200 HP?

I wouldn't call that underpowered. Actually, I'd call that probably one of the most powerful FWD cars of its time.

Much like this new type r.

I'm in the love it camp.

BRZ = not enough power, CTR = too much power.

No wonder this forum loves the small block Ford so much.

That is a car where the group that wants it the most has a fairly small intersection with the group that can afford it. I am not interested in it based on the looks, but if I were in the market for boy racer, I would go for AWD and not FWD. Sounds like Honda is at least trying again, so that is good.

Honda is at least trying with this car. But mid-$30k price and FWD only, no AWD. It's gonna get eaten alive by the AWD boost buggies (WRX, Golf R, Focus RS). Plus, ugly.

Also and additionally, BMW 2- and 3-series all start at mid-$30k. Not to mention the Mustang GT if you want a bigger pony car.

I love the styling, mainly because it seems Honda (of all people!) had a design initiative that instead of being a powerpoint presentation, was a 4 foot by eight foot sheet of carbon fiber with the word "BATSH*T" in all caps in GTA-style Pricedown font cut out of it. There's just something immensely pleasing about a product that resulted from someone telling a group of intelligent people to go berserk.

Like the front. Loose the stupid wing and the center exhaust for tips at either side.

All fixable.

I don't love the looks, but I don't hate it. It could grow on me. I wonder what a wingless one would look like.

20" wheels!?!?

I dig it but it's been well established that I also like the styling trends of the late 90s early 2000s.

Doesn't this thing have the goofy integrated exhaust manifold turbo deal?

If I were buying one I'd really be sitting on my hands until the aftermarket develops.

Its not for me, but I'm glad Honda is making it.