neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
11/9/09 10:21 a.m.

Time for a flush and fill of engine kool-aid. I'm just looking for some tips. I have done these before, but not in 6 years, IIRC.

Should I take the time to bring out the hose and really flush it out, or just let it drain on it's own.

If I flush it, I remember to fill it half way with strait anti-freeze then top it off with water, as there will still be water in the system. What is the capacity on the 1st gen neon? The .org lists it as 6.5 Qts (on 96-up), is that correct for the entire system? Unfortunetly my Hayes book is missing, and I dont have an owners manual.

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess SuperDork
11/9/09 10:41 a.m.

A trick used in Esprit circles it to disconnect a radiator hose and stick a wet/dry shopvac on it and suck it all out that way. Then, depending on what you want, we use 1/3 antifreeze and 2/3 distilled water. That will give the best protection and cooling capacity, as water transfers heat better than antifreeze.

The best antifreeze is Toyota Red. It ain't cheap, but that's what I and many others use.

mkiisupra
mkiisupra New Reader
11/9/09 11:32 a.m.

I've also ran the garden hose (hold your flames for a while) into the radiator hose to flush out older systems (too old to care about distilled vs tap)

If switching to 'red' coolants (Toyota, and other specials) be very complete about empy-ing the system. Traditional and red coolants mix together to make a lovely orange precipitate that tends to clog passages and make the 'flush' that much harder. Don't ask me how I know, it was before GRM had a forum...

Eric g

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
11/9/09 3:54 p.m.

to be finished tomarrow... I lost the Rad. drain plug :facepalm: and can't get a new one till tomarrow

pitbull113
pitbull113 New Reader
11/9/09 8:45 p.m.

the best way to flush is to put garden hose in radiator and flush with car running. when the fluid coming out of the drain plug is clear and hot you're done.

Jack
Jack SuperDork
11/9/09 10:00 p.m.
pitbull113 wrote: the best way to flush is to put garden hose in radiator and flush with car running. when the fluid coming out of the drain plug is clear and hot you're done.

+1

Also, use distilled water when you are ready to refill.

Jack

driver109x
driver109x Reader
11/9/09 10:41 p.m.

Might as well change the t-stat too. With that I stick the garden hose in the t-stat housing, disconnect the lower rad hose and reverse flush it. I dont even bother draining the block especially if its hard to reach.

iceracer
iceracer HalfDork
11/10/09 9:30 a.m.

Distilled water is a waste of money. Any potable water is sufficient. A 1/3-2/3 mixture may not have sufficient protection depending on where you live. Up here in NYS a 50/50 mixture is mandatory.

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