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J.A. Ackley
J.A. Ackley Senior Editor
10/15/24 10:54 a.m.
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What can a Corvette ZR1 producing 1064 horsepower do? Break records. With GM President Mark Reuss behind the wheel on a German test track, the ZR1 achieved a top speed of 233 mph. That makes it the fastest production vehicle ever made by an American automaker.

“Setting the top-speed record in the Corvette ZR1 is a true triumph for Corvette …

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brandonsmash
brandonsmash GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
10/15/24 11:05 a.m.

That's certainly an impressive feat. It's interesting, though, that they did this on PS4S tires and aluminum wheels; I would've expected Cup 2s with the CF wheels.

 

Driven5
Driven5 PowerDork
10/15/24 11:13 a.m.

Apparently we're omitting limited production hypercar manufacturers from this claim?

Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
10/15/24 11:16 a.m.

For comparison, here's some of the company the ZR1 joins at 233 mph:

  • McLaren F1: 243 mph
  • Pagani Huayra: 230 mph
  • Porsche 918 Spyder: 218 mph
  • Audi R8 V10 Plus: 205 mph
Mndsm
Mndsm MegaDork
10/15/24 11:20 a.m.
Driven5 said:

Apparently we're omitting limited production hypercar manufacturers from this claim?

I was the same thing. Hennessey has been there

Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter)
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
10/15/24 11:26 a.m.
Mndsm said:
Driven5 said:

Apparently we're omitting limited production hypercar manufacturers from this claim?

I was the same thing. Hennessey has been there

I suppose that's what "production car" means in this context. Hennessy modifies existing vehicles. Well, when they aren't stealing their customers' money. wink

Driven5
Driven5 PowerDork
10/15/24 11:32 a.m.

SSC hit 2-way speeds of 256mph (Guinness certified) way back in 2007, and 283mph  (Racelogic certified) more recently.

While the Venom GT was on a modified Lotus VIN, I believe the Venom F5 is bespoke which should make it eligible in the near future for an anticipated 300+mph based on its 220+mph HALF mile (Guinness certified) record.

J.A. Ackley
J.A. Ackley Senior Editor
10/15/24 11:39 a.m.

Yeah, after reviewing some of the low-production car manufacturers in the U.S., we tweaked our text in the story a bit. It's still not taking anything away from the Corvette ZR1. It's fast.

Driven5
Driven5 PowerDork
10/15/24 11:52 a.m.

In reply to J.A. Ackley :

Alternatively, it could be argued as the fastest mass-produced production car from a US manufacturer... And perhaps of any manufacturer? Which is the most important aspect of this in my opinion. Of particular note, they're not even putting any limit on how much of Corvette production is ZR1's. They'll build as many as people check that box on the option list.

Datsun240ZGuy
Datsun240ZGuy MegaDork
10/15/24 12:07 p.m.

It seems like the other day when GM (1980's?) was excited to hit 150mph.  

Snrub
Snrub Dork
10/15/24 12:08 p.m.

I find it interesting that the McLaren F1 hit a higher top speed with 400hp less. Comparing the F1 to the Z06, the Cd is similar at .32 vs 31. Frontal area is 1.79 vs 2.05 m^2.

wae
wae UltimaDork
10/15/24 12:15 p.m.

I thought that The Drive's way of putting it was pretty clear:  Fastest car under $1M

Coniglio Rampante
Coniglio Rampante GRM+ Memberand Reader
10/15/24 12:22 p.m.

Holy crap.  This was driven by the same guy who crashed the pace car at Belle Isle a few years ago.  surprise

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/motor/2018/06/03/general-motors-executive-mark-reuss-crashes-pace-car-detroit-grand-prix/667677002/

brandonsmash
brandonsmash GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
10/15/24 12:25 p.m.

Looks like Guinness requires at least 30 identical units for something to be considered a "production" car, which would rule out things like the Hennessey Venom GT (13 units). 

dclafleur
dclafleur Reader
10/15/24 12:28 p.m.

In reply to Snrub :

Without looking I'd guess it is largely tied to gearing.  

Old_Town
Old_Town HalfDork
10/15/24 12:37 p.m.

I assume the upcoming Tesla Roadster will eclipse that claim as the fastest production car by an American automaker if/when it comes out and does what it claims? 

racerfink
racerfink UberDork
10/15/24 1:02 p.m.

Fastest, or quickest?  I'd believe claims of the quickest.

06HHR (Forum Supporter)
06HHR (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
10/15/24 1:07 p.m.

The F1 weighs 2,778 pounds according to the wiki.  I can't find a curb weight for the Uber Vette but I bet that's a good deal lighter than the ZR1

Andy Hollis
Andy Hollis
10/15/24 1:10 p.m.
Snrub said:

I find it interesting that the McLaren F1 hit a higher top speed with 400hp less. Comparing the F1 to the Z06, the Cd is similar at .32 vs 31. Frontal area is 1.79 vs 2.05 m^2.

Drag.

Other than the Senna, all production McLaren road cars are designed with very little downforce...just enough to offset lift at speed.  This is because it's way easier to market a car with a high top speed, rather than a lower speed + some big downforce number.  Even the Average Joe understands MPH.

If the Corvette is making 1200 lbs of downforce, that's got to be affecting drag substantially.

flyin_viata
flyin_viata GRM+ Memberand New Reader
10/15/24 1:26 p.m.

Somewhere, there's a Miata driver that will get a point-by from one of these

dculberson
dculberson MegaDork
10/15/24 1:39 p.m.

OK, I also saw the pre-modification piece and wanted to bristle about how there's other American cars that have gone faster. But SERIOUSLY think about this: a production Corvette just hit 233mph. Right off the assembly line you can buy a relatively-modestly priced American car and go 233mph. That's absolutely bonkers. What an amazing feat. The Venom and SSC are delicate bespoke extremely tiny production number vehicles. This is just off the rack Chevy. ~$180k car. It costs about twice what Jim Bob is gonna spend on his F350 dually crew cab diesel king ranch.

TravisTheHuman
TravisTheHuman MegaDork
10/15/24 1:43 p.m.
Snrub said:

I find it interesting that the McLaren F1 hit a higher top speed with 400hp less. Comparing the F1 to the Z06, the Cd is similar at .32 vs 31. Frontal area is 1.79 vs 2.05 m^2.

Thats only a 60hp difference @240mph.  I'm guessing gearing, because rough calcs don't show anywhere near 1000hp being needed.  600 is right in the ballpark.

 

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/15/24 2:40 p.m.
flyin_viata said:

Somewhere, there's an ambulance chaser gonna make a fortune from one of these

FTFY

Cedricn
Cedricn New Reader
10/15/24 2:47 p.m.

Hennesey hyper cars arent real homologated road cars last time i checked, have anything changed on that subject?

350z247
350z247 Reader
10/15/24 3:16 p.m.

In reply to Snrub :

There are a lot of variables. Not to mention, the production F1 will not hit 243 mph; the record was set with a raised redline. You addressed the drag which is likely a large part of it as well as gearing. I love the F1 and the legendary S70/2, but the 243 is a little bit deceptive.

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