EDIT: Original post was deleted, this was not the first post in the thread :).
That stinks. There's some good importers out there, and some super sketchy ones. And the prices do seem to double or more coming over from Japan.
Good luck getting your money back. Maybe the new seller would cut you a deal if you shared your story.
Also, that dadsclassiccars website is truly terrible.
You mention a Canadian consumer protection agency, Ontario lawyers and then the FBI. Does the FBI have jurisdiction?
Mundelien, IL us in the Chicago area. Is that where the car is?
Damn that's some trickery right there. Tell them never mind and demand your money back.
Only importer I would trust. Japanese Classics. I've personally known the owner for almost a decade now.
Wow. Very sorry for your situation. I have contemplated going that route in the past but was always just a little apprehensive. Hope it all turns out well for you.
Mundelein, huh? I'm about 15 min from there if you need a liaison, I can help
All the big importers seem to be falling off like flys
Are they refusing to refund your money?
Similar but different...
https://jalopnik.com/lost-nissan-skylines-a-335-000-lawsuit-an-empty-ware-1826873554
John Welsh said:Similar but different...
https://jalopnik.com/lost-nissan-skylines-a-335-000-lawsuit-an-empty-ware-1826873554
wow. that's crazy.
that was a long read but worth it. i'll stick with the locals, Japanese Classics. they're truly stand-up good guys.
OP, sorry about your crummy situation. best of luck getting it sorted.
Damn. Sorry about this. I'd be so mad.
Argh. The JDM importing business seems really shady. I'd maybe like a GT-R someday, I'm a big Nissan fan and I've owned 240SXs since my college days... But stories like this make me want to just pay extra for a car already here.
Is this holding your money hostage even legal?
In reply to kanaric :
Get the best team of lawyers you can find and don't stop until their (their meaning everyone who you've dealt with from this company) great grandchildren are legally indentured servants to yours.
"Is this holding your money hostage even legal?"
They are trying to claim in their recent response to me that they are "not negating a refund" when they literally said word for word:
So before I submit your refund request to our Exec team, I think it would be very wise to remove those posts and any other negative mentions out there that will violate your ability to sign a Mutual Release form, which is what they will require prior to the refund being issued.
In otherwords we will not give you your money unless you remove all reviews of us from the internet and sign this document that is very likely going to say I can't post about them. I refused to sign this. I never heard of signing a legal document for a refund before, lmao. Totally absurd.
I would just ask to see the mutual release document. Which while I have heard of it before, now that I think about it sounds like some sort of sex contract.
If it were me, I might be inclined to call up the district attorney's office in whatever city this company is located and ask what they think about it...
Check with a lawyer. Most contracts and things that you are required to sign are unenforceable or not legal. Even some of those boxes you sign when buying a new car. They are there to dissuade you from suing them, or making you think they could sue you, but are meaningless in court.
"Just one more thing, Col. Jessup. I'll need a copy of the transfer order. You know, for the file."
I'm no lawyer, and haven't even played one on TV, but I don't see any way in which that release could be legally binding.
One of the elements of a contract is what's known as "consideration", i.e. both parties to the contract must receive something of value for it to be enforceable. The consideration that you are receiving here is ostensibly the money back, which is ALREADY OWED TO YOU. Therefore, you gain no additional value out of it, and as such there is not consideration for both parties. The contract is not enforceable.
I think it's wise to play it safe until the money is back in your hands, but after that, berkeley 'em.
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