Anybody want to watch some videos of me racing and tell me how much I suck and how I can improve? I really would like the feedback and I really am not fragile.
Thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCtTXO8dbQk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLzX7_ntl-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKIP-YnC6Yw
You suck. You suck really bad. Give it up, as there is little hope of you ever becoming a competent race car driver.
That's all I have for now. I'll add more after I watch the video.
bravenrace wrote:
You suck. You suck really bad. Give it up, as there is little hope of you ever becoming a competent race car driver.
That's all I have for now. I'll add more after I watch the video.
+1.
The whole post.
Well, I suppose if you really want negative feedback, I'll not watch the videos.
You guys just made me happy. LOL
Wow, the driver of that black mini with the wing sucked.
You look pretty good out there, doesn't look like you're using the entirety of the track, but you kept your speed in the corners better than every car I saw ahead of you.
Looks to me like you just need more power. The only reason you weren't passing seemed to be that they would just lean on the gas and pull a couple car lengths on you every time the track straightened out, but you kept reeling 'em back in.
You didn't hit anything or have an off, you're not trying hard enough.
Did you have cold hands? ... Or do you just wear the slipperiest gloves you can find for better shuffle-steering instead of learning to hold the wheel still until you are actually over the limit of adhesion?
from what I see, the time between when you let off of the brake and get back onto the throttle is about .3 seconds. You need to make this less than .001 seconds.
that is all
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Don49
Reader
10/3/11 3:47 p.m.
Remember, slow in, fast out. You seem to overdrive going into the turns. Even though you are closing on the car in front, you are not getting a good run off the turns. Also, don't drive the car in front of you. There were several times you stayed right behind when you could have taken a different line and not been held up. Plus, as was already mentioned, use all the road. You can also link your turns so that you don't carry too much speed and slow yourself down as you go through a series of turns. You want to carry as much speeed as possible with out your car pushing.
Raze
SuperDork
10/3/11 5:37 p.m.
You drive a Daewoo, need I criticize you any more?
Seriously, nice driving, enjoyed the commentary, what more can you ask for but driving a car fast on a track in a foreign land, pretty much epic in my book and for you it's just another day out...
TRoglodyte wrote:
You didn't hit anything or have an off, you're not trying hard enough.
Ah, the joys of driving a $900 car in a field of 20k brand new machines ... I could be so popular.
Don49 wrote:
Remember, slow in, fast out. You seem to overdrive going into the turns. Even though you are closing on the car in front, you are not getting a good run off the turns. Also, don't drive the car in front of you. There were several times you stayed right behind when you could have taken a different line and not been held up. Plus, as was already mentioned, use all the road. You can also link your turns so that you don't carry too much speed and slow yourself down as you go through a series of turns. You want to carry as much speeed as possible with out your car pushing.
I was really working on trying to both threshold brake right away and brake as late as possible. Do you think I was overdoing it?
I was also trying to spend a lot of time in trail brake/throttle situations because this is when my car turns the best. Is there a better way than what I was doing?
Thanks a lot for the feedback. I'm relatively new at racing and, considering my lack of budget, I pretty much have to drive better than my opponents if I want to finish mid pack.
DaewooOfDeath wrote:
I was really working on trying to both threshold brake right away and brake as late as possible. Do you think I was overdoing it?
It is far more important to brake to exactly the fastest speed you can make the apex and get back on the power than to brake at the last possible moment. Brake a little earlier and save that exercise for when you can't find anymore time elsewhere.
DaewooOfDeath wrote:
I was also trying to spend a lot of time in trail brake/throttle situations because this is when my car turns the best. Is there a better way than what I was doing?
There is nothing wrong with that approach but...
Be careful of the urge to mash the throttle to minimize the time spent between pedals. It is important to do it quickly, but it is much more important at the limit to do it smoothly and at the right time. The biggest mistake I see students looking for more speed make is to hop from one pedal to the other and upset the car in an effort to never coast. The transition from brake to throttle should be undetectable to the contact patch. Smoooooooth (not slow, smooth) feet. If you are waiting until the last possible hundreth of a second, mashing the brake, turning and then dumping off the brake to hurry back to the throttle you are likely not doing any of the above at the ideal time or in the right proportion.
Focus on driving the correct line, increase the speed gradually and work on being smooth on all the inputs. When I say smooth I am always talking about to the contact patch - not the passenger. If you find that you are fighting the car - you are slowing yourself down. Open the radiuses, use all the road, unwind the wheel ... make the tires happy.
Raze wrote:
You drive a Daewoo, need I criticize you any more?
Seriously, nice driving, enjoyed the commentary, what more can you ask for but driving a car fast on a track in a foreign land, pretty much epic in my book and for you it's just another day out...
Nah, it's still pretty special. Taebaek is really pretty. Sometimes in the morning you can watch the mist burning off the track as the racecars drive through it. I really like it here.
As for driving a Daewoo, pretty much the opposite of a midlife crisis huh? I think my next project will be a Ssangyong.
;)
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:
1. It is far more important to brake to exactly the fastest speed you can make the apex and get back on the power than to brake at the last possible moment. Brake a little earlier and save that exercise for when you can't find anymore time elsewhere.
2. Be careful of the urge to mash the throttle to minimize the time spent between pedals. It is important to do it quickly, but it is much more important at the limit to do it smoothly and at the right time. The biggest mistake I see students looking for more speed make is to hop from one pedal to the other and upset the car in an effort to never coast. The transition from brake to throttle should be undetectable to the contact patch. Smoooooooth (not slow, smooth) feet. If you are waiting until the last possible hundreth of a second, mashing the brake, turning and then dumping off the brake to hurry back to the throttle you are likely not doing any of the above at the ideal time or in the right proportion.
3. Focus on driving the correct line, increase the speed gradually and work on being smooth on all the inputs. When I say smooth I am always talking about to the contact patch - not the passenger. If you find that you are fighting the car - you are slowing yourself down. Open the radiuses, use all the road, unwind the wheel ... make the tires happy.
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Good idea. I've heard a very common reason for pros being faster than us mere mortals is that they get to threshold on the brakes where most people don't brake hard enough. I was really trying to get from full acceleration to full deceleration as quickly as possible in those straight braking zones. I don't think I was slowing down too much in any of those corners, I'll usually let off the brake and coast a little if I brake too early rather than slow down too much and then speed back up.
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I had never heard this before, actually. I coast all the time in decreasing radius corners, and I find cars usually turn the best when they're coasting. I have never made an effort to jump quickly from brake to gas, although I have tried to improve my time going from gas to brake.
I usually try to ease off the brakes and onto the gas, because I'm doing both of those things in the middle of a corner and most of my traction circle is devoted to turning. Right?
Is this the wrong idea?
- Did I seem jerky? I try to drive as smoothly as possible, except when I'm Scandanavian flicking, as I can.