Death of a Cayman

Tires in the grass four times in the first 90 seconds of the video, and his steering wasn't close to the worst part of his driving. 

In reply to VolvoHeretic :

Takes a bit of readjustment, especially when trying to also train the left hand to work a manual, but once that is done all is good. No better, no worse.

After watching it twice, I am beginning to wonder if the whole thing was staged?  He was pretty blase about the end result . . .

VolvoHeretic said:

So, is it easier driving on the right side of the car compared to the left side or no difference for those who have driven both ways?

I just got back from another trip to Dublin.  It's only 'harder' in the sense that it takes a lot more concentration when you're not used to it, which I find draining.  One thing I never get past on my short trips is a tendency to drift to the left in my lane.  I'm constantly maintaining which bumps I'm hitting and how they relate to the edge of the lane because (I think) I haven't developed an expected sight picture in my brain for driving on the left.

ZOO (Forum Supporter) said:

After watching it twice, I am beginning to wonder if the whole thing was staged?  He was pretty blase about the end result . . .

So there are 4 videos posted from this track day, one with each of them driving solo and one with each of them driving with the other as a passenger. White helmet on his own definitely drives better, there are still some seriously bad habits like one hand on the wheel a lot but his downshifts aren't so crazy and he is getting some balance out of the car. Black helmet is just as bad on his own other than he isn't over-driving as much going off track, he's still over-revving on downshifts though (chirps the rear tires at least once) and is just odd to watch (he moves around in the seat in a strange way on the straights). White helmet driving with black helmet passenger is over-driving, over-revving and generally not good. Black helmet driving with white helmet riding we all know how that goes.

Maybe they went out in the posted session with a motor already ticking from the previous sessions and decided to just finish it off? I honestly think there is just something a bit off with Black helmet in general, maybe he tripped and hit his head that morning?

In the video with White helmet driving and Black helmet passenger, Black helmet doesn't get his chin strap done up until they are completing the first lap. I think out everything shown that is the worst to me. 

In reply to adam525i :

I wonder why they put these videos online. For the lulz?  To show off for their mates at the pub?  Maybe he thinks he is actually a good driver?

I am reminded of an incident at the 2015 RXNC.  There was somebody in MR who kept going on and on about his YouTube channel and about all the content he was creating.  His car was a complete nightmare - a Fox Body Mustang that shouldn't have passed tech, it had features like panels bolted shut (I think the drivers door used a deadbolt to keep it closed), broken off front swaybar mounts, etc.  I remember the broken mount vividly because he SHOWED it to me and I'm thinking, stick axle rear drive car, you NEED a front bar to make the chassis work.

His driving wasn't borderline dangerous, it WAS dangerous.  Not sure if deliberately hitting cones or just not caring if he followed the course or not or just unable to keep up with the wildly Dutch Roll-ing car.  I was stationed at an area with a slalom and chicane and on one run he took out nine cones in my section.  Just blithered and blitzed through it without a care in the world.

Oddly enough, I never did find any YouTube content...

VolvoHeretic said:

So, is it easier driving on the right side of the car compared to the left side or no difference for those who have driven both ways?

I've instructed from the "left seat" a few times . . . it takes a few laps to orient myself.  And I've lapped a few RHD cars; again, positioning is a challenge.  As is not looking up and to the right to check my rearview mirror :).

I don't post driving videos for much the same reason I don't post build logs. What's the point, when there is much better content out there? I have a certain admiration for these guys in being willing to display their ineptitude. it takes a certain devil-may-care attitude to show the world what you look like with your pants down.  

In reply to Kreb (Forum Supporter) :

I generally only post the best particular runs, or the ones with an interesting situation, for this reason.

Sometimes, though, I like to have a laugh at how much I suck 

Tl;dw: turning on muddy ice is hard

We have Forza motorsports on the simulators in my classroom. I've seen this before. Most of the 16 yo drivers I have. Especially the one handed driving. I can't even guess how many times I say, "if you turn the wheel and the car doesn't turn, turning it more won't help" in a week. Yikes.

We have Forza motorsports on the simulators in my classroom. I've seen this before. Most of the 16 yo drivers I have. Especially the one handed driving. I can't even guess how many times I say, "if you turn the wheel and the car doesn't turn, turning it more won't help" in a week. Yikes.

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

I also have often wondered, not just with driving, but all sorts of things why people post videos of them doing the absolute dumbest, most embarrassing stuff. 

Well I know why, they are trying to monetize their YouTube channel or whatever. But JFC. 

z31maniac said:

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

I also have often wondered, not just with driving, but all sorts of things why people post videos of them doing the absolute dumbest, most embarrassing stuff. 

Well I know why, they are trying to monetize their YouTube channel or whatever. But JFC. 

If you're going to be stupid you might as well get paid for it?

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

I respect your ability to repeatedly overcook the same hairpin. Lesser drivers would have slowed down after the first one.

Driving RHD isn't hard at all after an adjustment period. These days I can go back and forth easily. Unusual traffic patterns in other countries are more difficult to manage than RHD. 

In reply to brandonsmash :

And on track, the adjustment period is super short. My first ever track experience was during a study abroad when I rented an Exige at Silverstone. Shift pattern isn't mirrored, and the pedals are the same order, so it wasn't too bad. 
 

Traffic, roundabouts, right-of-way, etc all complicate things way more than just driving the car