RacerBoy75
RacerBoy75 Reader
1/8/25 1:23 p.m.

I have a set of RE-71RS tires that have been used for the last two seasons for autocrossing, and some street driving (like to and from the autocrosses). They are on my 2010 Cayman S. The tires probably only have 16 autocrosses on them (4 runs per auto-X, so 64 heat cycles), and are worn down to between 5/32" and 4/32". Not a lot of heat cycling on them, and they've never gotten really hot, like at a track day (which I sadly have not done lately). Lots of tread left, but the tires being two seasons old has me wondering if I should buy a new set. When not in use I store them in my garage out of the weather and sun. I'd prefer to save the $1200 - $1300 new ones cost, but I am also a pretty competitive person around motorsports. 

What is the wisdom on the shelf life of RE-71RS tires?

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/8/25 1:30 p.m.

All tires age out, I'm sure they're not as sticky as new anymore so if you really need peak grip you could sell these and put that money towards a new set. For a person who wouldn't mind losing a position or two due to not having the stickiest tires they'd be fine.

confuZion3
confuZion3 UltraDork
1/8/25 1:36 p.m.

You're referring strictly to a drop-off in performance due to a couple of years' age, and not the tires' expiration date? I wouldn't worry about them being unsafe. If you're trying to be competitive nationally, then you would probably be best off buying new tires every season (or more frequently). Where are you on that scale? 16 events' worth of heat cycles at autocross events probably didn't make them better than they were when they were new, but if you're just trying to beat your buddies out on the autocross course, they're probably no worse this coming year than they were at the end of last year's event.

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
1/8/25 1:36 p.m.

They are junk.  In order to help you out, I'll take them for shipping cost so they are out of your way!

 

Realistically, I haven't seen them fall off from that low number of heat cycles.  I'd keep on pushing them.

 

dps214
dps214 SuperDork
1/8/25 1:56 p.m.

In my experience 16 autocross heat cycles is at least getting pretty close to dead, but my heat cycles are probably a bit more aggressive than most and the tires are usually just into the wear bars when they start to go off (I don't really track heat cycles specifically but it's been around 130 runs plus a fair amount of street driving, at 6-8 runs/event that's around 16 events). Basically you'll know if they're still good or not from driving them. Two years of age alone should be a pretty minimal impact as long as they've been stored reasonably well.

RacerBoy75
RacerBoy75 Reader
3/3/25 12:28 p.m.

Yesterday I got my answer to the question. I went to an autocross at a local circle track (Evergreen Speedway in Monroe, WA) that has an unusual way of running the events. You get 12 runs and you don't have to shag cones! I've gone to a few events there lately and have been treating it like test sessions because I'm working on something with my driving, and this is the perfect place for this before my season championship starts in the PCA series that I compete in and actually care about. The previous two events I attended were cold (40 degrees or so), so I ran on my street tires, Pilot Sport 4 S's. Yesterday was warmer (low 50's), so I ran on the RE-71Rs's.

The first three runs were normal, then they really seemed to lose a lot of grip. Keep in mind that it was probably ten minutes between runs on a 50 degree day, so it wasn't like the tires were being heat soaked. They got progressively slower, with lots of big slides becoming the norm. My fastest run was my third one, and each run after that got slower and slower, so I do think the tires are basically dead.

I'd order a new set, but I've complicated the situation by reading how quick the new Vitour tires are supposed to be and buying a set of those. I pulled the trigger too quickly, because after receiving them, I read how they require warm temps to work well. Living in the PNW means that that is a problem! Since we won't see temps above 70 degrees until June through September, this is less than optimal. I'll probably end up ordering a set of the Bridgestones and trying to sell the Vitours.

Andy Hollis
Andy Hollis
3/3/25 1:14 p.m.
RacerBoy75 said:

 

The first three runs were normal, then they really seemed to lose a lot of grip.

I'd order a new set, but I've complicated the situation by reading how quick the new Vitour tires are supposed to be and buying a set of those. I pulled the trigger too quickly, because after receiving them, I read how they require warm temps to work well. Living in the PNW means that that is a problem! Since we won't see temps above 70 degrees until June through September, this is less than optimal. I'll probably end up ordering a set of the Bridgestones and trying to sell the Vitours.

That's not how heat-cycled out tires act.  They are consistently low on grip.  Not good for a couple runs and then not.  In fact, run-to-run consistency and heat tolerance go UP as the tire compound cycles.

As for P1 in the PNW?  Yeah...not the move.  If I lived there, RE71RS and A052 would be my weapon -- especially in the shoulder seasons.  Those P1's are also not great in your typically damp conditions.

Did you not see the GRM test? All of those points were discussed.  Should not have been a surprise.

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