https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a29471694/dodge-challenger-acr-rumor/
This is just the right amount of crazy to come out of Dodge right now, allegedly a 392 and a redeye motor version to be produced. I have no real reason to post this it just made me giggle and I love the idea.
Interesting, but what will that be, about the 657th version of that same car?
einy (Forum Supporter) said:Interesting, but what will that be, about the 657th version of that same car?
Who owns a version? Can you tell the difference between 717 and 797 or 825 horsepower?
I want to see them pull out pounds. A lot of pounds. That's would make me smile.
A quick google check shows a Challenger 1320, the drag racing special, with a curb weight of just over a 4100 lb curb weight. That's with no passenger seats. I'm sure with some carbon fiber body panels and light weight wheels they could get it around 3800lbs. Still a heavy beast.
In reply to rattfink81 :
A Camaro ZL1 is that heavy and mighty quick around the track! Just bring a huge brake and tire budget.
They are trying to make it outperform everything comparable on the track, yeah?
Be a neat trick to make something that heavy and relatively poorly handling take #1
I can't wait to read the comparo to the ZL1 1LE and a Mustang GT Track Pack 2 car..... oh the fun or a GT350 or GT500 comparo.
As much as I think I'd love to have one of the above, I really think I'd rather have a Cayman R or a Cayman S with some mods over either. I'm not Randy Probst so I need a forgiving car to make me look better.
In reply to Mr_Asa :
They actual handle pretty well, I'm a fairly aggressive street driver and to me it seems to handle as well as my old mk6 GTI which is about 1000lbs lighter. I can't see why it wouldn't handle as well as a comparable camaro.
In reply to rattfink81 :
Key word in that was relatively. I know they handle a damn site better than anything I own, but when compared to the rest of the pack of modern performance muscle there is a fairly strong reason that they aren't on many tracks outside of drag strips.
Datsun310Guy said:einy (Forum Supporter) said:Interesting, but what will that be, about the 657th version of that same car?
Who owns a version? Can you tell the difference between 717 and 797 or 825 horsepower?
Heck, I'd just like to see one at a roadcourse, any roadcourse, seriously.
ANY.
Give it a crapload of tire and make it stiff enough to handle that much grip and it will be quick. Will it be as quick as a Camaro/Mustang with the same tire? Probably not. Is that important? Also probably not.
This looks like a "track package" that will never see the track. I imagine they'll produce dozens of examples and sell every one at high markup.
I wonder when Dodge will have a new car to sell.
pres589 (djronnebaum) said: I wonder when Dodge will have a new car to sell.
They're working on an "L" car, and should even get to "M" within the lifetime of most posters.
What?
They'll stop building them when you stop buying them. You are still buying them.
Raze (Forum Supporter) said:Datsun310Guy said:einy (Forum Supporter) said:Interesting, but what will that be, about the 657th version of that same car?
Who owns a version? Can you tell the difference between 717 and 797 or 825 horsepower?
Heck, I'd just like to see one at a roadcourse, any roadcourse, seriously.
ANY.
Seriously? Like, seriously?
In reply to chandler :
Road Atlanta, no less.
Cooter said:In reply to chandler :
Road Atlanta, no less.
Thank you, there was one on one lap last year that did pretty well at Nelson Ledges which does not favor a big car.
Appleseed said:I want to see them pull out pounds. A lot of pounds. That's would make me smile.
The lack of steering feel this chassis has is somewhat unnerving, almost frightening. I have played video games 30 years ago that had more driver feedback.
chandler said:Raze (Forum Supporter) said:Datsun310Guy said:einy (Forum Supporter) said:Interesting, but what will that be, about the 657th version of that same car?
Who owns a version? Can you tell the difference between 717 and 797 or 825 horsepower?
Heck, I'd just like to see one at a roadcourse, any roadcourse, seriously.
ANY.
Seriously? Like, seriously?
Not really serious, looking forward to it.
In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :
The piles of E36 M3 I've driven must be radically different than the piles of E36 M3 you've driven. I don't think I'd be affected. 
Appleseed said:They'll stop building them when you stop buying them. You are still buying them.
And in large numbers. Its selling double what it did when it was new. Its soundly outselling the 6th-gen Camaro. You know, the smaller lighter musclecar that every stomped their feet and said they wanted and then didn't buy. Dodge was also the only OE to crack the top 10 on most reliable brands last year.
NickD said:Appleseed said:They'll stop building them when you stop buying them. You are still buying them.
And in large numbers. Its selling double what it did when it was new. Its soundly outselling the 6th-gen Camaro. You know, the smaller lighter musclecar that every stomped their feet and said they wanted and then didn't buy. Dodge was also the only OE to crack the top 10 on most reliable brands last year.
This is the same scenario with the PT Cruiser. Last few years of production Chrysler didn't promote it at all and was still selling 40k a year.
rattfink81 said:In reply to Mr_Asa :
They actual handle pretty well, I'm a fairly aggressive street driver and to me it seems to handle as well as my old mk6 GTI which is about 1000lbs lighter. I can't see why it wouldn't handle as well as a comparable camaro.
Street driving doesn't really translate to track driving. Everyone I know who thinks they were a "fast driver" on the street, goes to the track and is immediately humbled beyond belief.
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