So I was watching a documentary on Williams F1 and they showed to much of the (my view) 55 LeMans crash as well as the Roger William son crash, my wife happened to be walking past the TV during the Williamson footage and I told her "don't watch that". They also showed the Bandini Monaco crash. I really wish film makers would stop showing these, one can get the point across without having to show this stuff............I know I know it sells newspapers etc.
I value and respect everyones opionons; however, that crash was a catalyst for much needed safety improvements at the time, and unfortunately it was at the cost of human lives. When I see those it's a constant reminder of why I should take safety so seriously in the race cars I build, the products I buy for safety, and so on. Also no one is forcing you to watch those scenes when they come on, there are other solutions than to exclude an important event in the history of motorsport.
I get the initial car careening off the track at LeMans from a historical perspective but after that it is a bit much, especially the aftermath scenes. As for the Williamson crash seeing David Purley struggling and scrambling while some guy burns to death adds nothing.....it's just ghoulish (my opinion of course.
My motorcycle road racing days took care of my taking safety serious.
I have mixed feelings on this one. Yes, when it's done for shock and awe, then it's in poor taste. When shown for education. training, causing changes, increasing awareness, then it's a good thing.
There are lot of graphic videos I wish our society had access to gor education. I also understand that what has seen cannot be unseen. Of course, I'm talking about personal and family safety and not just auto safety.
kb58
SuperDork
4/13/20 9:00 p.m.
I watched one of those and wish they'd left out a couple scenes. Seeing an obviously dead driver, still sitting in his car, with his helmet having melted over his head from the heat of the fire... a cheap and stomach-churning attempt at getting attention for one's film, even if it's historic footage. Like you said, some things cannot be unseen.
Yeah there's a bunch of stuff like that on Youtube and I kinda get queasy any time they show up in the sidebar. Like, just because I'm watching a motorsport video doesn't mean I want to see a fatal crash, Youtube, so quit suggesting it.
There was a time in the past when I put aside my discomfort and watched a few of them out of curiosity, but it only made me feel worse.
See I would never show something to make someone feel bad. I wish people could see things from a problem solving and education point of view. There are valuable lessons to learn from tragedy, but showing it for clicks is wholly inappropriate.
I always feel the same about people slowing down and stopping to looky loo at auto wrecks? Just what are hoping to see. My dad used to go to crash sites as an expert for the gov't to be a witness if needed. There are two I wish I never saw and one I'm glad I only heard about, but that funeral was rough.
Having seen people killed on track right in front of me during my motorcycle road racing days I will admit I may have a prejudice.
Many of these documentaries are aimed at hard core enthusiasts who honestly don't need the gruesome details to know the sport is dangerous. I don't need to see Isle of Man crashes to know the event is dangerous.
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Dork
4/14/20 10:16 a.m.
I watched Senna last night with the wife. That too had WAY too much in it. My wife asked me to fast forward. She also balled her eyes out at the end. When the credits rolled she said "well thanks for that depression, let's go to bed."
the thing is, you gotta stop feeding the bears. When every Netflix original is rated M, and contains vulgar language, nudity, and gore, you have to wonder why you are watching that. They know what sells, don't be a sucker.
Tk8398
Reader
4/14/20 1:32 p.m.
I don't even want to look it up again to see who or where but the one where you can see the remains of the track worker sprayed across the bottom of the video frame is another one I would rather not see again.
kb58
SuperDork
4/14/20 2:13 p.m.
_ said:
...the thing is, you gotta stop feeding the bears. When every Netflix original is rated M, and contains vulgar language, nudity, and gore, you have to wonder why you are watching that. They know what sells, don't be a sucker.
I remember back in the 1980s (I think) a UK news article noting that while partial nudity on TV there is no big deal, they banned several US TV series for being too violent. An interesting note on our society, I thought, no doubt thanks in part to our religious past. Boobs, no, but bullets and blood, now that's entertainment.
Can't help but be reminded of that epic The Simpsons scene where Homer goes to buy a gun. The name of the gun shop is... wait for it... "Bloodbath and Beyond."
Itchy & Scracthy good.......................jiggly nude bad.....................OK got it.
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) said:
See I would never show something to make someone feel bad. I wish people could see things from a problem solving and education point of view. There are valuable lessons to learn from tragedy, but showing it for clicks is wholly inappropriate.
I always feel the same about people slowing down and stopping to looky loo at auto wrecks? Just what are hoping to see. My dad used to go to crash sites as an expert for the gov't to be a witness if needed. There are two I wish I never saw and one I'm glad I only heard about, but that funeral was rough.
I can agree with this. I was shown a few videos about working with large machinery in a warehouse. I walked out of that room with a completely different look on life, and being safe. To this day, I will not let my wife be around a lathe Or a forklift
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AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) said:
See I would never show something to make someone feel bad. I wish people could see things from a problem solving and education point of view. There are valuable lessons to learn from tragedy, but showing it for clicks is wholly inappropriate.
I always feel the same about people slowing down and stopping to looky loo at auto wrecks? Just what are hoping to see. My dad used to go to crash sites as an expert for the gov't to be a witness if needed. There are two I wish I never saw and one I'm glad I only heard about, but that funeral was rough.
I can agree with this. I was shown a few videos about working with large machinery in a warehouse. I walked out of that room with a completely different look on life, and being safe. To this day, I will not let my wife be around a lathe Or a forklift
I used to stand in as a safety aid for machine tool operator school in the Navy. We also did hydrolancing of heat exchangers. Neither had fun training videos but students got the message.