I seem to remember reading that EcoBoost engines were going to be available yet I can't seem to find them online.
So was am I corn fused or do you have a link to them?
Thanks!
I seem to remember reading that EcoBoost engines were going to be available yet I can't seem to find them online.
So was am I corn fused or do you have a link to them?
Thanks!
In reply to Sultan:
A quick google search shows that they are coming out or already did. I would maybe try to find an F150 board and ask around there. Good luck!
how much would it cost to set up a fuel system for one of those? those DI engines run a LOT of fuel pressure..
It's not listed in the racing engines for sale.
novaderrik wrote: how much would it cost to set up a fuel system for one of those? those DI engines run a LOT of fuel pressure..
Someone recently posted an injector driver that would run the injectors, but so far, I've not seen an aftermarket ECU that will run the high pressure pump. (pressure run in excess of 2000psi)
Mazda ECU will for sure. Same basic DI setup in the cx7 ms3 and ms6.
News reports online indicate Ford is still working on it, and they'll be available towards the end of this year.
I'd be interested in the options for a Zetec replacement.
The Ecotec has the same bolt pattern as the Zetec? That would mean(in theory) one would bolt to a Europa transmission. 
mndsm wrote: Mazda ECU will for sure. Same basic DI setup in the cx7 ms3 and ms6.
Uh, no, it wont.
Basic set up- that it has a high pressure pump, and Di injectors, maybe. But these set up do require specifics. As in a specific driver that matches the high pressure pump, and a specific output that matches the injectors. DI is odd about that.
The Mazda ECU will be much, much tougher than trying to adapt an F150 ECU, which would be very, very difficult. Easier than a Mazda one would be a SHO Taurus one. And even that would not work without massive tear up in the module. I know it sounds odd, but you'll have to trust me on that one.
And that doesn't even address the simple fact that the Mazda units are 4cyl, and not 6.
DI engines are an entirely new ball game for aftermarket ECUs. Pump control has to be degree pefect to work, and it has to be that good on a cam that is variable. Injection control also has to be degree perfect, and you only can do squential injection. Both also require very different signals to what all aftermarket ECU's can do. You might be able to make a BMW 335 ECU work on a Taurus, and maybe even a F150. And none of those are that tuneable.
N Sperlo wrote: I'd be interested in the options for a Zetec replacement.
The Zetec was replaced 7 or 8 years ago.
Now that engine is being replaced, or more correctly, updated with DI and sometimes turbos.
alfadriver wrote: DI engines are an entirely new ball game for aftermarket ECUs.... Both also require very different signals to what all aftermarket ECU's can do...
What about the Bosch Motorsport MS 5.0 and HPI 5 Injector Driver mentioned in the World Challenge Kia article in the current issue of the magazine?
It seems that there are aftermarket ecu and injector driver solutions for DI engines but they are probably still well out of the the typical 'grassroots' price range.
alfadriver wrote:N Sperlo wrote: I'd be interested in the options for a Zetec replacement.The Zetec was replaced 7 or 8 years ago. Now that engine is being replaced, or more correctly, updated with DI and sometimes turbos.
I meant to replace MY Zetec. Pete got me.
cghstang wrote:alfadriver wrote: DI engines are an entirely new ball game for aftermarket ECUs.... Both also require very different signals to what all aftermarket ECU's can do...What about the Bosch Motorsport MS 5.0 and HPI 5 Injector Driver mentioned in the World Challenge Kia article in the current issue of the magazine? It seems that there are aftermarket ecu and injector driver solutions for DI engines but they are probably still well out of the the typical 'grassroots' price range.
Well, I don't normally consider a Bosch Mororsports ECU aftermarket. I would not be surprised that it costs more than that $10k unit that people use (can't recall the name).
Unless people also here think that the McLaren unit that is used in NASCAR and F1 aftermarket.
If you find one, go for it.
N Sperlo wrote:alfadriver wrote:I meant to replace MY Zetec. Pete got me.N Sperlo wrote: I'd be interested in the options for a Zetec replacement.The Zetec was replaced 7 or 8 years ago. Now that engine is being replaced, or more correctly, updated with DI and sometimes turbos.
You can get this one, then. http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=8901
Arn;t the DI pumps engine driven ? Like off the camshaft.
iceracer wrote: Arn;t the DI pumps engine driven ? Like off the camshaft.
yes
alfadriver wrote:mndsm wrote: Mazda ECU will for sure. Same basic DI setup in the cx7 ms3 and ms6.Uh, no, it wont. Basic set up- that it has a high pressure pump, and Di injectors, maybe. But these set up do require specifics. As in a specific driver that matches the high pressure pump, and a specific output that matches the injectors. DI is odd about that. The Mazda ECU will be much, much tougher than trying to adapt an F150 ECU, which would be very, very difficult. Easier than a Mazda one would be a SHO Taurus one. And even that would not work without massive tear up in the module. I know it sounds odd, but you'll have to trust me on that one. And that doesn't even address the simple fact that the Mazda units are 4cyl, and not 6. DI engines are an entirely new ball game for aftermarket ECUs. Pump control has to be degree pefect to work, and it has to be that good on a cam that is variable. Injection control also has to be degree perfect, and you only can do squential injection. Both also require very different signals to what all aftermarket ECU's can do. You *might* be able to make a BMW 335 ECU work on a Taurus, and maybe even a F150. And none of those are that tuneable.
Brain was on autopilot. I was thinking Ecoboost 4cyl.
From what I've heard, they're still working on the ECU & BCM side of it. The Coyote comes with a "Hot Rod" install kit available that will allow you to throw that puppy into anything your little twisted mind dreams up, the EcoBoost is another animal. They haven't come out with a universal stand alone "Hot Rod" install kit for it yet. When they do though... I'd really REALLY like one of those in my P71. Bigger turbo's and metal induction tubes are a must.
Yeah, I kind of assume that Ford will provide or make available the ECU to run the motor if they offer it in crate form.
dculberson wrote: Yeah, I kind of assume that Ford will provide or make available the ECU to run the motor if they offer it in crate form.
Yup. Most likely they'll have a fuel system for it too. I think they're just getting all their ducks in a row, or at least that's what the factory rep told me when I asked him a month or so ago. LOL
alfadriver wrote:N Sperlo wrote:You can get this one, then. http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=8901alfadriver wrote:I meant to replace MY Zetec. Pete got me.N Sperlo wrote: I'd be interested in the options for a Zetec replacement.The Zetec was replaced 7 or 8 years ago. Now that engine is being replaced, or more correctly, updated with DI and sometimes turbos.
$6,995.00
Do I get a female Brazilian sex slave with it?!
nah, you get 20 used up vietnamese ones.....
ecu wise, livernois would hook someone up with custom tuning 
N Sperlo wrote:alfadriver wrote:$6,995.00 Do I get a female Brazilian sex slave with it?!N Sperlo wrote:You can get this one, then. http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=8901alfadriver wrote:I meant to replace MY Zetec. Pete got me.N Sperlo wrote: I'd be interested in the options for a Zetec replacement.The Zetec was replaced 7 or 8 years ago. Now that engine is being replaced, or more correctly, updated with DI and sometimes turbos.
Not to mention that it's a Zetec, so apparently the Zetec wasn't replaced 7 or 8 years ago?
dculberson wrote: Not to mention that it's a Zetec, so apparently the Zetec wasn't replaced 7 or 8 years ago?
For production cars in the US it certainly was.
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