Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
1/17/14 11:10 a.m.

I have a need for one of these. I have an old Serial based one laying around, but i'd just as soon get a USB unit at this point.

I need it to be able to handle a few different styles of chip, and it needs to be able to "copy" a chip, via reading what's on a chip i already have, saving the .bin to my PC, then dumping it on another chip.

Oh, and i'd like to not spend $500. Seems like a small list of demands, right?

Looking at the Genius G540 http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Genius-G540-USB-Universal-Bios-GAL-Programmer-EPROM-FLASH-51-AVR-PIC-MCU-SPI-/350977831819?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51b7e8b38b

And the GQ 4-x. http://www.ebay.com/itm/True-USB-GQ-4X-EPROM-chip-Burner-Programmer-29F400-/260819856441?_trksid=p2054897.l4275

dculberson
dculberson UltraDork
1/17/14 12:23 p.m.

I think either of those would work well. If you know any of the chips you would be using, make sure the specific chips are compatible with the programmer.

One big thing to make sure of is that the programmer uses the USB port for communications; some of the older Willem units used the USB for power then used serial or parallel port for communications. And who has those ports any more? Both of the ones you linked to use the USB port for communications. Where it gets its power from is less important, but it looks like both of those are USB powered.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
1/17/14 12:25 p.m.

I'll open up one of the boxes and pry one of the chips out tonite and post a couple good pictures so someone can check me.

Here's my current museum piece:

Catatafish
Catatafish Reader
1/17/14 12:54 p.m.

Once you have one of those you can burn custom chips for my f2t project?

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
1/17/14 1:01 p.m.

I don't have a way to translate the data, seems the only person that really figured that out disappeared around 2002.

But, i should be able to figure something out for you. I have a chip or two in my possession already that would be pretty easy to copy.

Catatafish
Catatafish Reader
1/17/14 1:30 p.m.

What are those chips good for?

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
1/17/14 1:42 p.m.

Depends on the chip and the goal. I've seen over 300whp done with a basic boost cut chip, 370cc injectors, and an adjustable fuel pressure regulator. (Lots of fuel pressure.)

I personally run a bit of a different chip that's set up for 440cc injectors that should have quite a bit more room than the basic chips.

But these chips aren't really why i was looking for a burner. There's already a guy that sells copies of almost (not including my 440 chip, i have the only one) all the old chips for fairly cheap on PerformanceProbe.

I need the burner to finish converting my HKS FCON collection over to F2T usage. Buying a burner is cheaper than buying a bunch of chips from HKS. (483whp recently made using an FCON setup)

dinger
dinger Reader
1/17/14 3:27 p.m.

http://www.moates.net/burn2-chip-programmer-p-197.html?cPath=94

Cheap, easy, USB powered.

Catatafish
Catatafish Reader
1/17/14 3:39 p.m.

How does the fcon work? In conjunction with the chip?

bluej
bluej Dork
1/17/14 3:50 p.m.

Very timely thread. I need to pick up a burner for Bosch Motronic chips (E30).

What's wrong w/ the one you have that you wouldn't want to just pick up a setial-usb converter?

HFmaxi
HFmaxi New Reader
1/20/14 1:57 p.m.

+1 for the GQ-4x. I do stacked eproms (plcc32 27SF010) for obd1 subies and it works just fine. Had to convince them to send me a working socket converter but after that it was fine.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
1/20/14 2:37 p.m.

In reply to bluej:

Would need that and a floppy drive to install the program. Cheaper and more future proof to just buy a new updated unit.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
1/20/14 2:38 p.m.

In reply to Catatafish:

FCON has its own vehicle specific chip.

dansxr2
dansxr2 Dork
1/20/14 5:38 p.m.

+1 for the Moates Burn2. I considered buying one when I first bought the Probe to try to read and confirm what chip it had. I know some really fluent people in computer language that may be able to help if you need it. Anything I can do, just let me know.

HFmaxi
HFmaxi New Reader
1/20/14 8:30 p.m.

I would pass on the Moates, why buy a burner that can only burn obsolete chips?

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