carguy123
carguy123 UltimaDork
8/10/13 12:32 p.m.

Apparently I've been extremely lucky and haven't had to replace an engine hose in a long, long time. Is it supposed to be this hard?

The hose is 1" and so is the barb. Does this mean I have the wrong size hose or are you supposed to have to use some non-rubber degrading lubricant like dish soap and just force it up on there?

Am I just a woosie baby?

fasted58
fasted58 PowerDork
8/10/13 1:12 p.m.

Light coat of Dawn to both parts

Appleseed
Appleseed UltimaDork
8/10/13 1:57 p.m.

Wait till sharp parts start stabbing your hands trying to get it on. You'll hate that hose even more.

carguy123
carguy123 UltimaDork
8/10/13 2:24 p.m.

The OD of the hose is 1" whereas the barb is 1.025". The old hose looked distended so I thought I was getting near the failure point, but I see that it's distended because it was forced on.

I would have to expand the hose the full thickness of the material the hose if made out of which is over a quarter of an inch (both sides combined). That seems like it's too much.

Fortunately there are no sharp parts nearby, except when I have maximum pressure applied and something slips and my hand goes who knows where.

The 1" hose is cut to length off a big roll, but on the other hand the formed hose I'm replacing just goes on with a minor amount of pressure. That's what I remember, not having to use mega force.

44Dwarf
44Dwarf SuperDork
8/10/13 2:38 p.m.

boil a cup of water in the microwave to full boil place next to hose barb soak hose for a minute or two pull out of water (move cup to avoid burns) and while burning hot jam that sucker on the barb.

carguy123
carguy123 UltimaDork
8/10/13 2:40 p.m.
44Dwarf wrote: boil a cup of water in the microwave to full boil place next to hose barb soak hose for a minute or two pull out of water (move cup to avoid burns) and while burning hot jam that sucker on the barb.

Sounds like a plan. Between that and the dish soap it ought to go on. My question was more of SHOULD it go on, but I'm guessing that it's just that I haven't replaced a hose of this nature in so long I'd forgotten how difficult it was.

So the correct answer is I'm a woosie baby.

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy PowerDork
8/10/13 3:23 p.m.

You mean "Wussy"?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wussy&defid=2791264

Combination of "wimp" and the "p" word.

corytate
corytate SuperDork
8/10/13 3:28 p.m.

silicone lube (not the spray stuff, the grease) works wonders for heater core hoses and the like, should also work here. It makes a GIGANTIC difference

motomoron
motomoron Dork
8/10/13 3:28 p.m.

That's not right. The ID of the hose should be about equal to the OD of the barb...

~on the lands between the raised "barbs"~

OD of barb larger than OD of hose is more interference than is necessary or correct.

I've used a lot of the Earl's push-fit AN fittings and hose lately. On these the OD of the nose of the barb is essentially the ID of the hose. The barb OD is a bit less than hose OD.

I put the fitting in a vise fitted with soft jaws, lubricate the inside of the hose w/ assembly oil, heat it with a heat gun, then wearing a welding glove, push it on while twisting.

Once the hose has been trial fitted and where the ends are clocked is set, I crimp on Oetiker clamps.

Oh yeah - slip the Oetikers over the hose before pushing it on to the second end, 'cause they don't come apart once they're pushed together.

novaderrik
novaderrik UberDork
8/10/13 7:33 p.m.

get the right hose for the application..

M2Pilot
M2Pilot HalfDork
8/10/13 9:06 p.m.

KY jelly is probably better than Dawn for this application. The spouse has never asked me why I keep a tube in my toolbox.

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