European Camaro Cup at Sebring and Palm Beach in Feb.

The Camaro Cup will makes it debut in the United States Feb 11-12 at Sebring and the following weekend at Palm Beach (Feb 18-19).

The Sebring event will be with the Central Florida Region SCCA, which will also be a Crane Cams V8 StockCar points weekend. In addition there will be a full field of SCCA classes including vintage.

This is an SCCA spectator event and I understand the charge is only 5 bucks for non SCCA members.

The Camaro Cup is a televised pro series in Europe and counts Jan Magnusson and Nic Jonnson among series drivers.

The cars are tube framed chassis constructed by Howe Racing in Michigan with the Howe Camaro Euro body. Similar to the Trans Am TA2 body, save for they don't have the wide flares. The cars are powered by modified versions of the Chevy ZZ4 crate motor and make around 450 horsepower. With only about 2500 pounds to push around, they are quite quick.

The second weekend at PBIR will be run with HSR (Historic Sportscar Racing) and will also be a points race for Crane Cams V8SC.

There are practice days for both events on friday before the weekend.

I bet they are quite quick...

i wonder why they run the old school ZZ4 small block instead of one of the many sealed LS based engines that GMPP sells?

Sounds interesting, but does the world really need another tube-frame, silhouette-body, spec series? And ZZ4's instead of LSx's?

Javelin wrote: Sounds interesting, but does the world really need *another* tube-frame, silhouette-body, spec series? And ZZ4's instead of LSx's?

Yes......because they are safer, less costly to repair, much lighter, easier to work on, use readily available stock car technology that works exceedingly well, more adjustable, etc.

They have been using the ZZ4's for a number of years, but I hear they plan to move to LS motors in the near future.

bosco wrote:

Javelin wrote: Sounds interesting, but does the world really need *another* tube-frame, silhouette-body, spec series? And ZZ4's instead of LSx's?

Yes......because they are safer, less costly to repair, much lighter, easier to work on, use readily available stock car technology that works exceedingly well, more adjustable, etc.

Yeah, we know all of that. That's why there's already over two dozen professional series that use such a setup. Which doesn't answer the question of "do we really need another one?".

And don't say to sell Camaros, because nobody is going to buy that a funny car body on a NASCAR frame with a SBC will have anything to do with selling Camaros.

The guys racing actual Camaros in Grand Am don't seem to have any issues with safety, repair costs, performance, or adjustability...

To wit:

Javelin wrote:

bosco wrote:

Javelin wrote: Sounds interesting, but does the world really need *another* tube-frame, silhouette-body, spec series? And ZZ4's instead of LSx's?

Yes......because they are safer, less costly to repair, much lighter, easier to work on, use readily available stock car technology that works exceedingly well, more adjustable, etc.

Yeah, we know all of that. That's why there's *already* over two dozen professional series that use such a setup. Which doesn't answer the question of "do we really need another one?". And don't say to sell Camaros, because nobody is going to buy that a funny car body on a NASCAR frame with a SBC will have anything to do with selling Camaros. The guys racing *actual* Camaros in Grand Am don't seem to have any issues with safety, repair costs, performance, or adjustability...

Whose we?....................Camaro Cup is overseas, where there is not too many tube type series. Definitely a growing scene over there. I think it is pretty cool that they chose to come over and race with us.

Racers will race anything. They are racing within the rules allowed. I was making a comparison of the two types and there is no doubt that a purpose built tube frame racer is superior in all the areas I mentioned. I didn't say Grand Am Conti cars or similar are unsafe to race, just that tube cars are safer. One glaring thing about the street stock type cars is the seat in these endurance type door slammers. I have noticed that because of the need to adjust the seat for the second driver they are mounted on slide rails and most had no seat back brace. The Mustangs, BMW's and such approach 170 mph at Daytona and in a roll over or high speed frontal crash that is a recipe for disaster.

By the way, these chassis are not remotely related to a Nascar type. Closer to a Trans Am car.

230 teams entered for Sebring at this time!!!

Sebring 2012 V8 Winter Heat Weekend Schedule by V8Stockcar » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:40 am

Friday Feb. 10, 2012 9:00am - 5:00pm Test Day 5:00pm - 8:00pm Event Registration / Tech 7:00pm V8 Social

Saturday Feb. 11, 2012 7:00am - 10:30am Event Registration / Tech 8:00am Green Course 25 min. Qualifying V8Stockcar Group 6 12:00pm Lunch Break/Drivers' Meeting 25 min. Qualifying Camaro Cup Group 8 Camaro Cup Race 4 - 25 min.

Sunday Feb. 12, 2012 8:00am Green Course V8Stockcar Race 6 - 30 min. 12:00pm Lunch Break V8Stockcar Race 14 - 20 min. Camaro Cup Race 16 - 25 min.

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