Ever had one thing about a car completely make you lose interest in modifiying it?

No. Never.

I've had a LIST of things do it, but never one thing.

scottdownsouth wrote: 50 mpg tdi. I could easily get more power out of it but then what ?

+1. I'll have day-dreams about my TDi, but they never go anywhere.

My E30... it was hard to get enthused about modifiying a car that practically broke every time I drove it, whether it was at an autocross or to the grocery store. I had the same problem with my Cummins (perpetually broken...).

Now I'm afraid to ponder modifying anything...

Swank Force One wrote: Rust.

This for me

0*F temperatures in the garage did it during my winter break from college.

Also the inability to disable the traction control on my leased 2012 Subaru Impreza also made me lose interest in the car. Once it was eligible for a buyback, I threw the keys at Subaru and went back to a crappy BMW.

Rust / thread.

I've learned I'm not as afraid of rust as most of you all.

I will mod anything, anywhere at anytime. Everything needs improving, all the time.

Ruck Fust

Appleseed wrote: Rust / thread.

Rust just means you can do crazy stuff that you wouldn't dream of doing to a clean shell. Sure, it won't last long, but so what? It's a testbed.

In reply to Knurled:

good point. You've convinced me.

I'll put my vote in for automatic transmission. This vote does not count for single or dual clutch autos. I've never owned one of those, so I don't feel right criticizing them just yet.

DaveEstey wrote: Prius.

Yes indeed! But mainly because of the slow steering rack.

4cylndrfury wrote: Yes, because PT Cruiser

Came here to say this, and was astounded to find it already here.

In reply to Rufledt:

Of the 20 cars I've owned over the years only two have had a manual transmission. Everything gets modded.

rust. if i find rust on most stuff it either goes away or gets relegated to winter beater duty.

i flipped out on my 80 z28 when i found they patched rusty floors without cutting rust out. i parted it out on impulse and made a bunch of cash on it.

In reply to nicksta43:

I guess I shouldn't talk, The only car I have that's modified is also the only automatic I've ever owned. I'd love if it was a stick, but I'll keep it either way.

In reply to Rufledt:

You should have seen my van

Pics?

Yes... replacing subframe mounts on an F-body. I always hated the fact that they are floppy, limp, squeaky, and heavy. I pulled apart the front clip on a 71 RS for some good stuff. I had jackstands under the mounts. When I pulled out the 350, the front of the subframe came up 4" before the motor lifted off the mounts. I couldn't believe it so I dropped it back down and measured again.

berkeley F-bodies

curtis73 wrote: I pulled apart the front clip on a 71 RS for some good stuff. I had jackstands under the mounts. When I pulled out the 350, the front of the subframe came up 4" before the motor lifted off the mounts. I couldn't believe it so I dropped it back down and measured again. berkeley F-bodies

Ah, the good old days.

They weren't, were they? That chassis was noodly even when everything was perfect. I swear that is why the bumpers were always such a loose fit.

There's a company (Fat Man?) that makes a front subframe that - shock, horror! - actually ties in to the top of the firewall instead of cantilevering the whole front end off of four bushings in the tub's floor. One of those "why didn't someone think of this thirty years ago??" kind of ideas.

nicksta43 wrote: In reply to Rufledt: Of the 20 cars I've owned over the years only two have had a manual transmission. Everything gets modded.

I'll tell you, that 2.4 turned a plain vanilla auto box Neon into a really fun commuter.

Knurled wrote:

Appleseed wrote: Rust / thread.

Rust just means you can do crazy stuff that you wouldn't dream of doing to a clean shell. Sure, it won't last long, but so what? It's a testbed.

This is what we mean by rust around here. Not much left to modify.

Knurled wrote:

curtis73 wrote: I pulled apart the front clip on a 71 RS for some good stuff. I had jackstands under the mounts. When I pulled out the 350, the front of the subframe came up 4" before the motor lifted off the mounts. I couldn't believe it so I dropped it back down and measured again. berkeley F-bodies

Ah, the good old days. They weren't, were they? That chassis was noodly even when everything was perfect. I swear that is why the bumpers were always such a loose fit. There's a company (Fat Man?) that makes a front subframe that - shock, horror! - actually ties in to the top of the firewall instead of cantilevering the whole front end off of four bushings in the tub's floor. One of those "why didn't someone think of this thirty years ago??" kind of ideas.

Only way to fix it IMO is to Schwartz it:

This:

No matter what you do, it'll always be a Chrysler product.

I think the only thing that killed the z was rust. I do regret getting rid of it now though. I need another one.

DirtyBird222 wrote: So this is a tiny tiny little issue that has escalated into making things a PITA for turning my DD into a track rat as well. It's the inability to disable VSA/Traction control without the presence of the TPMS sensors. Honda's system won't work with the pipe bomb method and it would require me to have a cloned set of sensors. It just seems like such an inconvenience to swap on a second set of wheels and tires and an unnecessary cost. On the bright side it has me leaving this car stock for the time being and I've been looking at potential chump car/crap can/lemons mobiles instead. Tax monies away! Anyone else have a similar experience/issue?

Curious as to the year and model. I read the same thing about my 09 Civic Si and I was really turned off. I stumbled across a set of Evo wheels and tires and put them on for track duty. No TPMS sensors and I can turn off/On TC/VSA at will. A big rear swaybar means there are plenty of chances to test that it is off. It may be worth a try if you haven't already. It saved me buying a set of TPMS sensors.

In reply to Appleseed:

That's just nature adding lightness.