The posi axle I have is 5" wider than the one in the car, or 2.5" per side.
I could use different offset wheels and flare the fenders, but how do I match that up front? Widen the front axle?
The is a Ford 8.8 posi with 2.73 : 1 (prairie) gears. Any help, tips, heck I'll even take a hotlink would be greatly appreciated.
Dan
Part number- 1000-RENK1
http://www.mittlerbros.com/rear_end_parts__accessories.htm
About 2/3 of the way down the page. Basically its a shaft that sits in the side bearings, and holds the axle bearing housing where it needs to be. I'm sure you can grassroots something if you can find a good shaft and machine up some plugs.
As to the axles themselves, aftermarket stuff is pretty cheap, probably not much more than paying someone to respline. Its also possible there may be some truck axle out there thats got the centersection offset- like you would use 2 right hand Ranger axles or some such.
What is the axle from?
If it is an early SN95 Mustang you could swap in Fox axles and drum brakes and narrow it 1.5" each side. Then you are just dealing with a minor flare.
If you HAVE a Fox axle then try aftermarket 15x6.5" 4x108mm/4x4.25" +40 wheels and measure the outer face versus the fender lip a medium or small flare may still work.
Look up 1971 Skyline GT-R for what I mean by flares ;)
What's the axle from? If it's an Explorer, you can easily narrow it 2-15/16ths to 3" by getting another right-side axle and cut/weld left-side tube.
RealMiniDriver wrote:
What's the axle from? If it's an Explorer, you can easily narrow it 2-15/16ths to 3" by getting another right-side axle and cut/weld left-side tube.
Cutting welding = work. If I'm going to work that hard I would do both sides and get what I really want. I am a machinist and not without resources, I just don't know how to do it.
Lewbud: It's going into a 1968 Ford Gortina GT.
Dan
Dan, what car is the rear from?
Mustang I think. 54" plate to plate, 4.5" 4 lug bolt pattern, highway gears, 8.8.
The kid I bought it from is a Mustang guy, has three on the road, two in a barn, that's why I assume Mustang.
Dan
I have an 8" (just like the 9"; removeable center section) that came out of a Pinto wagon. It is norrower IIRC if you are interested. It uses the same bolt pattern as the 4-bolt Muskrats. It may tuck without cutting.
-Les
It isn't 4.5" bolt circle then, it is 4x4.250/4x108mm
Tape a pair of bobweights from the center of outer fenderwells and measure the max width of the body at the quarter panel. If my internetting is correct the rear of the car should be about 64" wide leaving you about 10" of space for fender gap.
Almost every Mustang wheel will be @+25mm offset, see if you can find a pair of 15" Audi 80/90 wheels for test fit, they should be a +45mm 15x6.
The Cortina wheels are 4 X 4.5". They slip right o to this new axle Quasi.
Les, what's the width of your axle?
Dan
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3/30/10 10:29 a.m.
Whats your front hub to hub width? Where do you need the driveshaft (left to right of center)?
http://dwarfcarracing.com/technical-info/how-to-manufacture-a-rear-axle-housing-for-a-dwarf-car-modlite-race-car/
This will show you how to do it, but you'll need to modify a bit due to difrent MFG
914Driver wrote:
The Cortina wheels are 4 X 4.5". They slip right o to this new axle Quasi.
That is what scares me, the Mustang has a 4x108mm bolt circle.
(Replacement drum)
http://www.napaprolink.com/detail.aspx?An=599001+599999+101993+109999+50026+59999+2026026+2999999+3026006+3999999+12602&A=NDA4401628_0260403298 said:
# of Bolt Holes : 4
Bolt Circle Diameter : 108 mm
Brake Drum Surface Depth : 54.1 mm
Center Bore Diameter : 64.5 mm
Height : 70.3 mm
Inside Diameter : 228.6 mm
Maximum Discard Diameter : 230.12 mm
O.D. : 280.2 mm
Soooo.... What Fords are 4 X 4.5" posi, 8.8?
None. 5x4.5" all day long (Mustang, Ranger, Crown Vic) 4 bolt 8.8" LSDs were only on Mustang GTs after 1986, all were 4x108mm.
Quasi, once again I bow before your MegaDorkiness.
We are not worthy, we beseech thee to give us a dipstick lashing.
http://www.thespotlowrider.com/product/BOLTPATTERN/Bolt_Patterns_of_Production_Automobiles.html
And to you for your Web Shui I commend the!
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So your wheels are 4x108mm, and if we install them on the OE axle they will be 1.5" farther outside than the OE axle per side.
I say a reasonable flare with the OE wheel would be awesome. See Datsun 510 flares for cheap options.
This axle is 5" wider than the stocker. So 2.5" per side, but I really like the aluminum GT wheels. (where's that whine emoticon?)
Similar but different offset up front to keep the track the same?
Dan
Is the OE axle bad?
If not, why not use it?
With the Fox rear end being 2.5" wider per side I would have to say...
Box flare?
http://www.bodykits.com/AIT-Racing/Fender-Flares/Universal-AIT-Racing-Universal-Fender-Flares-_-HIWFENDERS/619817/
http://www.bodykits.com/AIT-Racing/Fender-Flares/Universal-AIT-Racing-Universal-Fender-Flares-_-HIWFENDERB/619816/
A 7 - 8" wide front wheel with the hub inboard, would that doink up the steering geometry?
Dan
It will add a little bumpsteer for certain, but I cant imagine it would be terrible for limited use. I would be more afraid of bearing wear.
What is wrong with the OE rear axle?
Add those wheels you like to it and some small flares and keep it simple. (did I really type that?... shudder)
The stock Cortina axle is one wheel peel and would blow up with the engine I have.
I took some measurements last night:
Hanging strings off the widest point of the fender, the width is 64 inches.
The posi Ford axle I want to use is 60 inches from the outside of the the drum to the opposite side. (where the wheel hub sits)
Using the 13" aluminum GT wheels, it's 65" to the outside of the wheels when on the posi rear end.
Looks like a little fender bump or flare is going to do it! Unfortunately I can't use the cool wheels.
Dan