Mr_Clutch42
Mr_Clutch42 SuperDork
8/12/15 5:10 p.m.

I read the article in June's issue about using math formulas to get a good baseline for spring rates for autocross and track days. One of the formulas require corner weights for your car. Did anyone do corner weights on a factory E36? I have a 328i, but if someone did one for a M3 or 325i, that will be close enough. No, I'm not finding much when I look it up on Yahoo.

bgkast
bgkast GRM+ Memberand UberDork
8/12/15 6:04 p.m.

Factory curb weight and weight distribution divided by 2 should get you in the ballpark.

Mr_Clutch42
Mr_Clutch42 SuperDork
8/13/15 8:25 a.m.

In reply to bgkast:My number is coming out really odd. To get the rear suspension frequency to a 2, I need to use 1600 lb/in rear springs.

bgkast
bgkast GRM+ Memberand UberDork
8/13/15 9:15 a.m.

That doesn't sound right. Post your math?

Slippery
Slippery GRM+ Memberand Dork
8/13/15 9:39 a.m.

Check my e36 M3 build thread. I am sure I put it on my scales.

Slippery
Slippery GRM+ Memberand Dork
8/13/15 9:41 a.m.

Its there on the first page. Its a 6 cyl though.

E36 thread

Mr_Clutch42
Mr_Clutch42 SuperDork
8/13/15 10:47 a.m.

E36 motion ratio: front .88 rear .46

E36 wheel rate Front: 67.37 Rear: 44.44

E36 curb weight approx. 3174 lbs corner weight approx. 793.75 lbs with 50:50 weight dist.

Front factory suspension frequency: .915

Rear factory suspension frequency: .743

Front suspension frequency w/500lb in springs: 2.19

Rear suspension frequency w/1600lb in springs: 2.05

Corner weight- front: 809.37 lbs rear: 777.63 with 51:49 weight dist.

Front factory suspension frequency: .906

Rear factory suspension frequency: .751

Front suspension frequency w/ 500 lb in springs: 2.17

Rear suspension frequency w/ 1600 lb in springs: 2.07

I went off a couple of people on a BMW forum that said the front motion ratio is .88 and the rear motion ratio is .46. I also went with an online source for factory spring rates of a M3. I should have dropped the spring rate by 10% since I have a regular one, but it should be close enough. I can post the formulas if someone needs it.

http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/html_techtip/techtips/e36_m3_spring.htm

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