Faster than a shifter kart?

I'm too old to get commissioned as a USAF or USN fighter pilot, and not rich enough to buy an Indycar.

If I get used to the speed of my shifter kart, what's the next step up? I'd be looking for something that changes direction more violently and accelerates harder - more decisions/minute.

150cc pocket bike?

F600? https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/advertiser-playground/f600-challenge-series-discussion/118263/page1/

Super karts are pretty quick http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/news/a11274/superkarts-super-speeds/

Super kart.

What's your budget?

Obviously the 250 superkarts with aero and twice the hp would do it.

Interesting question, I found a site that had shifter karts in the 1:40 range at lacuna seca, Superkarts at 1:24

Then Hello All,

I thought people on this forum might be interested in seeing the laptimes i was able to achieve in all the 69 different cars on this game around the Laguna Seca track. All laptimes below are with the stock setup, no tuning at all.

I use a controller and assists i have on are TCS and ABS only. I ran each car for 5 laps in time trial mode noted down the time. I hope this helps people in comparing what each car is roughly capable of.

Here are all the laptimes for all 69 cars around Laguna Seca, from fastest to slowest separated into classes.

I have begun testing Road America now same deal. 5 laps each track stock setups no tuning.

i will start a new thread here and on my team site PTG for Road America.

To get up to date Laptimes of Road America and my quick overview of the cars tested at Laguna Seca in all 69 cars please go to my PTG team site. You will find a a large friendly community, with tuning help, controller and wheel setting help, hot lap challenges and competitions/series.

Press link below.

http://pendulumtuning.freeforums.org/index.php

LAGUNA SECA

OPEN WHEEL CLASS

1:05.668 - Formula A 1:10.867 - Formula B 1:11.256 - Lotus 98T Renault Turbo 1:17.503 - Formula C 1:19.042 - Lotus 78 Cosworth 1:23.481 - Formula Gulf 1000 1:29.694 - Lotus 72D Cosworth 1:31.238 - Formula Rookie 1:32.984 - Lotus 49 Cosworth

PROTOTYPE CLASS

1:10.680 - RWD P30 LMP1 1:11.774 - Marek RP 339H LMP1 1:11.810 - Audi R18 TDI LMP1 1:15.577 - Sauber C9 Mercedes Group C 1:15.764 - RWD P20 LMP2 1:15.821 - Marek RP 219D LMP2 1:16.097 - Alpine A450 LMP2 1:16.379 - Oreca 03 Nissan LMP2 1:17.357 - Radical SR8-RX Prototype 2 1:17.993 - Caterham SP/300R Prototype 2 1:21.217 - Radical SR3-RS Prototype 2 1:23.233 - Palmer Jaguar JP-LM Prototype 2 - 1:23.233

STOCK CAR CLASS

1:25.083 - Caper Monterey Stock Car

GT CLASS

1:19.825 - Pagani Zonda R 1:21.669 - Ford Mustang Cobra SCCA Transam 1:22.602 - McLaren 12C GT3 1:22.851 - Aston Martin V12 Vantage GT3 1:22.947 - BMW Z4 GT3 1:23.140 - RUF RGT-8 GT3 1:23.347 - Audi R8 LMS Ultra GT3 1:23.656 - Mercedes SLS AMG GT3 1:23.947 - Ginetta G55 GT3 1:24.242 - BMW 320 Turbo Group 5 1:24.406 - BMW M3 GT GT3 1:24.652 - Ford Zakspeed Capri Group 5 1:25.095 - BMW M1 Procar Group 4 1:29.242 - Ginetta GT5 GT4 1:29.648 - Aston Martin V8 Vantage GT4 1:29.888 - Ford Mustang Boss 302R1 GT4 1:30.877 - BMW M3 GT4 1:31.820 - Aston Martin Rapide S Hybrid GT4 1:35.513 - Ford GT40 Mark IV 1:43.430 - Ginetta G40 Junior GT5

TOURING CLASS

1:18.995 - Merc AMG C-Coupe DTM 1:30.141 - Ford RS500 Cosworth Grp A 1:31.046 - Merc 190E 2.5-16 Evo2 DTM Grp A 1:31.527 - BMW M3 E30 Grp A 1:38.709 - Renault Clio Cup 1:45.432 - Merc 300SEL 6.8 AMG 1:46.359 - Ford Escort Mk1 RS1600

ROAD CLASS

1:23.805 - Ariel Atom V8 500 1:24.386 - Gumpert Apollo S 1:25.108 - RUF CTR3 1:26.508 - McLaren P1 1:26.518 - Lykan Hypersport 1:27.558 - Pagani Huyrua 1:28.244 - McLaren F1 1:30.781 - McLaren 12C 1:31.674 - Ariel Atom 300 Supercharged 1:32.149 - RUF RGT-8 1:32.154 - BAC Mono 1:32.582 - Caterham Superlight R500 1:32.799 - Mercedes SLS AMG 1:33.888 - Audi R8 V10 Plus 1:38.667 - Mitsubishi Evo X FQ400 1:40.136 - BMW 1-Series M Coupe 1:41.278 - Mercedes A45 AMG 1:43.828 - Ford Focus RS 1:45.368 - Renault Megane RS 265 1:52.504 - Caterham Seven Classic Last edited by PTG Greeksniper; 15-06-2015 at 02:35.

If you are too old to join the USAF, chances are you won't get bored with a shifter kart---- at least a big-bore one. F1 and Indycar drivers use them to keep sharp in the off-season. There isn't much that compares. (at least not on a mortal's budget)

If you like playing in the dirt, and have to walk bowlegged to make room for your massive cajones. The World of Outlaws may be the place for you! Those guys make the rest of the racing world look like an elderly lady's bridge game.

However a quicker lap time probably doesn't mean much as far as how violently they accelerate and turn. The kart is going to be top speed limited that will really kill it in a full size road course

I've been doing shifter karts for a few months and I can't fathom ever wanting anything faster than a kart on sticky rubber

In reply to icaneat50eggs:

Pretty sure the OP's not referring to video games.

Kiwi jet boat racing. If that gets boring, it's cause your dead.

Oh crap is all that from some stupid video game forum? I just googled Latina specs lap times.

Rockets?

Maybe have a chat with 914driver about flying gliders? I was a passenger in one once and it scared the holy E36 M3 out of me.

Edit: I should add the pilot was trained in the German AF. I never knew a glider was so maneuverable.

What's so scary about gliders? Quiet, peaceful, relaxing, no headphones.

chaparral wrote: I'd be looking for something that changes direction more violently

When I read this all I could think of was that episode of The Simpson when Homer was strapped to a gurney and rolled off a cliff.

Superbike

Ariel atom with just a little power increase...

650Hp Ariel Atom...

Is the superbike or a 600 HP atom really faster?

I'm not seeing the physics of anything out accelerating it (0-60) that isn't AWD and some fancy traction control. once you get going and the kart starts having issues from bad aerodynamics I could see it, but not before that.

Same with turning, I can't see a superbike turning as well, but I don't know anything about bikes

Joe Gearin wrote: If you are too old to join the USAF, chances are you won't get bored with a shifter kart---- at least a big-bore one. F1 and Indycar drivers use them to keep sharp in the off-season. There isn't much that compares. (at least not on a mortal's budget) If you like playing in the dirt, and have to walk bowlegged to make room for your massive cajones. The World of Outlaws may be the place for you! Those guys make the rest of the racing world look like an elderly lady's bridge game.

Even the "Midget" cars are incredibly entertaining.

Speaking of, when is one of you going to go to Tulsa (my hometown) and cover the largest, most insane indoor dirt track race in the world? 5 days of racing and typically 325+ entrants. This year was the first year I've missed in nearly a decade.

Cocaine and super models In reply to chaparral:

Sounds like the man needs ground effects.

Supermodifieds would probably be entertaining, too. The power to weight and downforce of a sprint car, but pavement under the tires. I bet that gets the side loads going.

You could try to import Thai long tail boat racing.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/9CPZ3svFfn0

https://www.youtube.com/embed/A0pM0N6rMRI

snailmont5oh wrote: Supermodifieds would probably be entertaining, too. The power to weight and downforce of a sprint car, but pavement under the tires. I bet that gets the side loads going.

Supermodifieds are something else.

I was gonna say a sprint car as well.

Neither are cheap by any stretch of imagination though.

In reply to BrokenYugo:

You know how sometimes you didn't know something existed til like 2 minutes ago and now you desperately want one? Yeah.