Cotton wrote: Currently I haul with my old 95 Cummins Dodge and use our 99 Cherokee for the trails.
calm down.
obviously the ridgeline threatens your manhood. Don't expect to like any of the new dodges though.. Ha.. I know first had how craptastic they are.
I defended that company too long. I could tell you things that would make you cry. Have fun with your chinese turbochargers in 2010. w00000
Cotton wrote:93celicaGT2 wrote:No way dude....he needs that to pay for the all the spa trips!Cotton wrote:Well based on the MSRP discrepancy... does Jensenman get ~$5k to modify his car/truck/suv/van thing?Jensenman wrote: Yeah, the H3 done real good in the last Baja race they entered. Too bad they got beat by one of these:I knew that was coming out. Is that the Ridgeline you plan on buying? You go buy a stock Ridgeline.....I'll grab a nice H3T, then we can play.There was an FJ behind them as well. We need a 'poke' smiley.
Yessir, gotta keep my skin tone pretty now.
ignorant wrote:Cotton wrote: Currently I haul with my old 95 Cummins Dodge and use our 99 Cherokee for the trails.calm down. obviously the ridgeline threatens your manhood. Don't expect to like any of the new dodges though.. Ha.. I know first had how craptastic they are.
I'm not buying a new Dodge....I like my old one. Plus I could never spent that much money on a new truck.
One of the cars I own is a red Mercury Capri XR2 convertible...it was free, so I didn't actually choose it, but will drive it, so I think it's safe to say I don't have a problem with my manhood! 
Just chill.. Nothings ever as bad as you think or as good as you think...
and the chinese turbo thing.. thats 2012.. I messed up the timing. The cores(rotating bits) will be assembled in china then sent to the US for end cover installation. The LDD engine will have chinese turbos from the start.
could you imagine Lamborghini winning the Government contract and this exploding onto the rode with soccer mom Susan dropping little Billy of at soccer pratice while on her cellphone?
Are you guys really arguing about SUV's?
The best SUV is a cheap one you don't have to care about and because most new SUV's, including Hummer's, aren't cheap, I have determined that a $1000 Cherokee is a far more fitting vehicle.
Jensenman wrote: The H3T's bed is far too short to be of any real use. If I can't fit 2 dirt bikes in longways and close the tailgate or carry a 4x8 sheet of plywood without using one of those extender doohickeys that sticks in the trailer hitch, it's a poseur truck.
i guess it depends on why you have the vehicle. if you need it to carry dirt bikes or take you to home depot, yes. if you want to go off-roading, maybe not so much...in that case, the longbed 2wd silverado is the poseur no matter how well it carries dirtbikes and plywood.
Apparently they are selling like hotcakes in...Iraq. Why don't they just ship the factory over there and have ai it?
Cotton wrote:Jensenman wrote: Yeah, the H3 done real good in the last Baja race they entered. Too bad they got beat by one of these:I knew that was coming out. Is that the Ridgeline you plan on buying? You go buy a stock Ridgeline.....I'll grab a nice H3T, then we can play. edit: I honestly wouldn't buy either one.....at least not unless it was for peanuts, but forced to pick my choice is the H3T hands down. It seems like it would make a decent small truck. Currently I haul with my old 95 Cummins Dodge and use our 99 Cherokee for the trails.
I wouldn't buy either one, as well. However, you are certainly correct in that there is no comparison between the off road capabilities of the Hummer and the Odyssey body kit-excuse me, Honda Aztec, whoops! I mean Midgeline.
ignorant wrote: Have fun with your chinese turbochargers in 2010. w00000
If Holset has a decent QA program, and enforces it in their Chinese factories, they shouldn't have a problem. Garrett/Honeywell has a factory in China and the quality/reliability of turbos coming out of there is on par with the turbos coming out of their plants in the Czech Republic, Mexico, France, England, etc. Holding the suppliers to strict quality standards and regularly inspecting the components will keep quality parts coming in.
Bob
RossD wrote: My dad got a H3 right when they came out and its a blast for offroading. The view outward is simply awful compared to Cherokee.
Theres not a lot of stock vehicles that have the capabilites that the H3 has, except for maybe a Rubicon Wrangler, a Unimog or a Defender. Nothing else comes to mind, though. Personally I dont care to defend the H2 but the H3 is good stuff. If you want to see, come to northern wisconsin and my pop would be glad to show you the E36 M3 it can go through. Just bring the beer.
You need to check out some landcruisers! really any of them are up to the job of doling out some serious whup ass to many a "offroad" vehicle. Nice to see some one actually using an H3 to go offroad as opposed to driving over a curb @ the local mall 
My dad looked at the landcruisers but he said they were just a little too spartan. I think thats how he started looking at the H3 because he got excited about the landcruisers and saw the 0% financing over at the hummer dealership.
As for the styling, I think it has more to do with the military. The Cherokee was designed to follow the look of past jeeps, like the original CJ or the M version. The H2/3 are designed to follow the styling cues from the H1. Since the original jeep and the H1 were designed for similarlly rugged roles they have similar styling cues.
Bring your stock ridgeline or cherokee and watch the H3 you pull out. 
Landcruiser interior... spartan.... landcruiser interior... spartan.
Does not compute.
Ooops I'm handy capable today. I was crossing landcruiser with FJ cruiser. my bad. That goes with my other posts too. My dad said the FJ cruiser was spartan. Sorry.
forzav12 wrote: whoops! I mean Midgeline.
93celicaGT2 wrote: Landcruiser interior... spartan.... landcruiser interior... spartan. Does not compute.
Look at the oh so awesome foreign Landcruisers, like the FJ75 (I think thats the right number) and its diesel brother. Spartany goodness that we can't get here 
. Not that my comment really means anything in the context of the thread, I'm just wishing I had one.
Did I really read a reference to a ridgeline "threatening someone's manhood"? Oh my.... I may have heard it all now! 
Bobzilla wrote: Did I really read a reference to a ridgeline "threatening someone's manhood"? Oh my.... I may have heard it all now!
I'm always heard those who are the loudest and most vocal homophobes are really closeted gay dudes. I'm betting you got a ridgeline at home and hate yourself everytime you slip behind the wheel.
I don't know, if I had a hummer at home I'd probably not hate myself over it.....
Wait, are we talking about the same thing?
thatsnowinnebago wrote:93celicaGT2 wrote: Landcruiser interior... spartan.... landcruiser interior... spartan. Does not compute.Look at the oh so awesome foreign Landcruisers, like the FJ75 (I think thats the right number) and its diesel brother. Spartany goodness that we can't get here
I agree. I'm very partial to the older Landcruisers, myself.
I was understanding that GM also makes a lot of other military vehicles like duece and a half trucks, armored personel carriers , some of tank equipment, air craft PUs for ground manuvers, and also electronic systems,ETC>>
who is ready to step up without a bunch of down time, before we lose a battle or worse, and the crap dont function properly!
there is an old sayin,, when GM goes down the USA is right behind it, goining
down.
Oshkosh Truck Company makes a lot of the defense support vehicles. I dont think they make any of the actual fighting vehicles but they make the truck that tows the M1 Abrams Tank.
I dont know how much GM does for the military. (Side note, my dad got to ride in one of the HET trucks and he said they able to look down into normal semi trucks.)
Yeah Oshkosh, International, BAE systems <--- they make support vehicles. GM makes ESCALADES!
ronbros wrote: I was understanding that GM also makes a lot of other military vehicles like duece and a half trucks, armored personel carriers , some of tank equipment, air craft PUs for ground manuvers, and also electronic systems,ETC>> who is ready to step up without a bunch of down time, before we lose a battle or worse, and the crap dont function properly! there is an old sayin,, when GM goes down the USA is right behind it, goining down.
I think you're confusing General motors with General Dynamics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Dynamics
GM used to make defense vehicles but no longer.
ignorant wrote:ronbros wrote: I was understanding that GM also makes a lot of other military vehicles like duece and a half trucks, armored personel carriers , some of tank equipment, air craft PUs for ground manuvers, and also electronic systems,ETC>> who is ready to step up without a bunch of down time, before we lose a battle or worse, and the crap dont function properly! there is an old sayin,, when GM goes down the USA is right behind it, goining down.I think you're confusing General motors with General Dynamics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Dynamics GM used to make defense vehicles but no longer.
I was thinking Veridian Dynamics or Massive Dynamics actually.
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