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wherethefmi
wherethefmi HalfDork
6/10/09 10:54 a.m.

I don't think the aftermarket is going to support the V6 nearly as well as the 4 and that means cheaper parts. Plus I'd rather run further away from the ragged edge. And. 5.0 to svo comparison is moot, what motor has more aftermarket support?

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/10/09 11:05 a.m.

If you remember 1987 you couldn't throw a cat without hitting a 2.3L performance company, meanwhile at the same time the 5.0L was just starting to get it's legs. IF Hyundai opens the source code up for the tuning of both engines and IF innovators do what they do best I still stand firm in the belief that you will see more consistent power from the V6. Yes The Turbo 4 will be a nice.

The 370Z has a compression ratio of 11:1 and the GTR has a compression ratio of 9:1 I will bet there are people that can make the 370z engine make more power and reducing Hyundais the CR to a GTR like 9:1 and adding two hair dryers could impress the masses equally.

wherethefmi
wherethefmi HalfDork
6/10/09 11:47 a.m.

Hope you're right, my belief is the 4 being cheaper than the six and less high strung internally will prevail. Twin turbo V6 will probably happen, will the parts associated with that run less than 5k, unlikely. for the t00ner crowd the 4 is going to be the one to mod. just my .02 anyway.

nderwater
nderwater Reader
6/10/09 12:13 p.m.
P71 wrote: drove the V6 Camaro about 2-3 weeks ago and posted about it. It's slower in every category, handles worse, weighs more, and is about a fifth again larger than the GC. The interior ergonomics would break a gymnasts back and the funky wheel blocks the gauges. In short, it's a total pile. I don't care how nice it looks (which to me is not much), it drives like a truck and has the visibility of a submarine periscope.

I'm sorry I missed that thread. I have yet to see one in person, but it seems like in everywhere I read, journalists are falling over themselves to sing the Camaro's praises. What the heck?

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/10/09 12:19 p.m.

One of those magazines rated the Renault Alliance the Car of The Year as well.

Cotton
Cotton Reader
6/10/09 12:58 p.m.
nderwater wrote:
P71 wrote: drove the V6 Camaro about 2-3 weeks ago and posted about it. It's slower in every category, handles worse, weighs more, and is about a fifth again larger than the GC. The interior ergonomics would break a gymnasts back and the funky wheel blocks the gauges. In short, it's a total pile. I don't care how nice it looks (which to me is not much), it drives like a truck and has the visibility of a submarine periscope.
I'm sorry I missed that thread. I have yet to see one in person, but it seems like in everywhere I read, journalists are falling over themselves to sing the Camaro's praises. What the heck?

I would say drive one and decide for yourself. There are a lot of opinions on this board that I don't really understand, so I definitely wouldn't base my opinion on one person's test drive.

P71
P71 GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/10/09 3:01 p.m.
Cotton wrote:
nderwater wrote:
P71 wrote: drove the V6 Camaro about 2-3 weeks ago and posted about it. It's slower in every category, handles worse, weighs more, and is about a fifth again larger than the GC. The interior ergonomics would break a gymnasts back and the funky wheel blocks the gauges. In short, it's a total pile. I don't care how nice it looks (which to me is not much), it drives like a truck and has the visibility of a submarine periscope.
I'm sorry I missed that thread. I have yet to see one in person, but it seems like in everywhere I read, journalists are falling over themselves to sing the Camaro's praises. What the heck?
I would say drive one and decide for yourself. There are a lot of opinions on this board that I don't really understand, so I definitely wouldn't base my opinion on one person's test drive.

+1, you'll have to see for yourself. I was something of a Camaro fan before I drove it and I was really looking forward to it. It's the best looking of the current 3 "pony" cars and the V6 was a great engine, but for somebody my size/body type the ergonomics ruin the whole car. David Freiburger at Hot Rod agrees with me (even on the stupid gauge placement!). After driving it, I could never own one (due to discomfort/pain) and the tiny windows were really hard to see out of.

Joe Gearin
Joe Gearin Associate Publisher
6/10/09 4:16 p.m.

I went to the Genesis Coupe intro in Atlanta recently. We drove both cars. They are both good, but have different flavors.

Details to follow soon in GRM.

Appleseed
Appleseed HalfDork
6/10/09 5:14 p.m.

Sweet! Bout time to see a real review.

P71
P71 GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/10/09 5:20 p.m.
Appleseed wrote: Sweet! Bout time to see a real review.

What, my first thread wasn't good enough for you people?

I'm looking forward to what GRM says, and I really hope they test the 2.0T, 3,8, and a Track vs. GT. Pretty please?

Schmidlap
Schmidlap Reader
6/10/09 8:36 p.m.

Regarding forced induction on the V6, Rhys Millen seems to be getting pretty decent power out of it.

"The Coupe's Lambda engine will initially use stock internals, which will limit its output. Still, Millen reports that at only 9 pounds of boost (probably all it can handle in stock trim) the mill makes 480 horsepower at 4,500 rpm and a staggering 570 pound-feet of torque at 3,800 rpm — at the wheels." From here: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=147566

Reliability at that power level is unknown, but if he's getting that much power from 9psi, a fully built V6 could be really, really interesting.

Bob

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