Fog Lights

So a couple questions that maybe you guys can help me with.

I am going to get new fog light housings for my Durango because the chrome plating is falling apart inside the bezel. The thing is I would like to switch to yellow bulbs instead of the white. I have 898(?) fog light bulbs, but my short google search didn't find any unless it looks like ebay. Does anyone have an idea where to look?

The other thing is does anybody use rear fog lights? I see them factory on a few European cars and some miscellaneous American and Asian cars from time to time. They are bright, great for fog. However, I don't really see any aftermarket lights. Out here in the country the fog gets hellaciously thick and so does the snow with the way the wind blows. I want to see and want to be seen. Any idea as how to set up my truck for a rear fog light? If I had a trailer hitch, I would say I'd mount to that, but my Durango didn't come with one from the factory.

Anything you can bolt the rears to. Keep in mind, it's not legal to use them while driving if their attached to the rear.. I've seen a lot of fog lights bolted under the rear bumper. I'd wire a relay to the reverse lights our to a toggle switch. Run the wires from the battery. The more power, the hotter they'll get. My roof rack wires get pretty hot. I should redo the wires when I replace them. The chrome is peeling off the inside. You get what you pay for.

As for the yellow. Just keep searching.

Advance Auto Parts search for 898 Fog, Sylvania light show up, use your profile to get zip of Beecher, IL (60401), use zip to get store availability, in-stock at every store within 20 miles:

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/PartSearchCmd?actionSrc=Form&pageId=partTypeList&searchTerm=898+fog&zoneAssigned=1&catalogId=10051&vehicleIdSearch=-1&langId=-1&searchedFrom=header&y=8&x=38&redirectedPage=1&storeId=10151

Are you asking about a red rear fog or mounting a front fog on the rear?

What year is the Durango?

There's an 893 bulb listed, and Hella makes a yellow one, PN: H71071192

Hella used to make a red rear fog lamp, like what's used on the European cars. I think they still do, but I didn't find the part number yet.

hella 81102 or 81103 are aftermarket rear foglight housings

yes.. go with the Hella rear fogs.. and they are LEGAL because they are red.

You could also knock out a section of the inner factory taillight and wire up some high power LED bulbs inside the lens. They're directional and incredibly bright, so if you mount them well could appear pseudo-factory.

My '94 volvo has a dash switch that makes the taillight bulbs brighter. Its in the same location as the regular taillight, but is about twice as bright. Its red, so its also not a safety issue for drivers behind you. Maybe you could mount a switch that you can control your rear lights from the cab of the truck.

I know in Europe.. Rear fogs need to be a set distance (I think 4 or 6 inches) from the brake lights to avoid confusion. you should also only run one, on the driver's side

mad_machine wrote: yes.. go with the Hella rear fogs.. and they are LEGAL because they are red.

Actually if you want to get technical, they have to be DOT certified. You won't get much flack for having lights that aren't, but if you want legal, that is what you're looking for.

Very true... I have to wonder if people would have less accidents in bad weather if they were mandatory here in the US?

In reply to mad_machine:

I kind of doubt it. Weather to that extreme is rare. Most accidents are caused by bad driving habits. Would I appreciate them in heavy downpours and hail storms? Yep.

First- make sure you don't leave your fogs on when its not foggy, or I'll beat them out with a bat....

Rear fog is required to be red, and there can only be one, so it is differentiated from the brake lights. Euros usually have a spare red hole with a 1156 bulb on the drivers side. The hole on the other side is left blank.

In reply to Streetwiseguy:

Oh my fogs are on all the time, so I'll be waiting with a ball and glove . It's only because the super duper Chrysler headlights produce about 5 candlepower combined, the fog lights help a little bit. If I were to go yellow though, they would only come on in inclement weather. I used to run yellows on my old wagon and they were too distracting if I left them on.

I am in the process of finding an aftermarket set of headlights that don't look like they came out of a 5-year old's imagination. I want to be able to see the road. I can literally leave my brights on and no one, I mean no one will flash their brights at me.

As for the rear fog light, I'm going to look into the Hellas.

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/smart/more_info.cgi?pn=911-631-251-29-M44&catalog_description=Rear%20Fog%20Lamp%20Housing%2C%20Red%20Lens%20%28does%20not%20include%20bulb%20or%20electrical%20connections%29%2C%20911%20%281965-89%29

$50? Good lord. But it is Hella, so that makes sense.

If you go junkyard searching, the 2nd-gen Olds Aurora seemed to have pretty good rear fogs. Also, cool tip I only learned last year (thankfully not through experience): if you pull over because the fog (snow, sleet, whatever) is simply too much to cope with, turn the rear fogs OFF... or some other poor lost soul will follow them right into your trunk.

My Transit Connect came from the factory with rear fog lights. As you can see, they are incorporated into the rear lights with one on each side. They are spaced about 6" from the regular tail lights. They also seem to be brighter than the tail lights. They also will only turn on when the engine is running.

Tail lights only

Tail lights and Fog lights

In our ice racing where white outs are common. We require a rear lamp.,55w or greater,yellow quartz halogen light aka: fog light, or a blue led light mounted at rear indow level or higher. The blue light works very well and in some cases seem to be more visible than the yellow.

iceracer wrote: In our ice racing where white outs are common. We require a rear lamp.,55w or greater,yellow quartz halogen light aka: fog light, or a blue led light mounted at rear indow level or higher. The blue light works very well and in some cases seem to be more visible than the yellow.

Blue penetrates fog, snow, and rain better... but only one group of people are allowed to use blue on the street.. and they do not like it if you have blue lights on your car at all.