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Apexcarver
Apexcarver PowerDork
6/3/15 8:17 a.m.

I was browsing through Ford Racing's site and happened across this

http://fordperformanceracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=25303

What is it?

a 2.0L Ecoboost crate WITH ENGINE MANAGEMENT for about $6k

EcoBoost Engine from 2013-2014 Ford Focus ST Production rating of 252 Horsepower @ 5,500 RPM Production rating of 270 lb. ft. of torque @ 3,000 RPM When used with Engine Control Pack M-6017-20T and 93 octane unleaded fuel, torque is increased 90 lb. ft at 2800 RPM - with a significant increase up to 4200 RPM. See the power curve for PN M-6017-20T

Am I reading this right? 270lb-ft + 90 = 362lb-ft!!!

Stupid ideas are abounding, thats not a bad price for a crate.

RossD
RossD PowerDork
6/3/15 8:21 a.m.

Anyone want to buy a Zetec with 130k miles, a '72 Pinto's 4 speed manual that bolts to the Zetec, and the 3.8/auto combo that's coming out of my '84 Marquis for $6k? I'll even through in the Central Fuel injection EEC-III computer and the gas pedal.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/3/15 8:23 a.m.

Yeah, they make stupid power.

tjbell
tjbell Reader
6/3/15 8:24 a.m.

berkeley... I want one. and a miata shell

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/3/15 8:36 a.m.

Nice, I know a lot of people were waiting for these.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
6/3/15 8:45 a.m.

That would be perfect for a bucket T.

Apexcarver
Apexcarver PowerDork
6/3/15 8:55 a.m.

I happened across it during a dream session of "What if I went full retard on the Bugeye Sprite", its not happening, but I like these dream exercises and figured that this was good enough that someone on here might act on it so that I can live vicariously.

I know they offered the 1.0L as a crate at one time, but the engine management was always the holdup due to the direct injection on these motors. If you have an OEM quality engine management without all of the CAN-BUS junk that could be a hell of a thing.

singleslammer
singleslammer UltraDork
6/3/15 9:16 a.m.

That is sweet! That will probably make its way into a lot of fun cars.

Apexcarver
Apexcarver PowerDork
6/3/15 9:21 a.m.

I am honestly half expecting that its a mistake on their site, but if its true...

egnorant
egnorant SuperDork
6/3/15 9:23 a.m.
tjbell wrote: berkeley... I want one. and a miata shell

Or Miata running gear in a Bugeye body...

Apexcarver
Apexcarver PowerDork
6/3/15 9:30 a.m.

Well, I did the chat thingy to see if anything was up.

FRPP Chat Window said: Please wait. An operator will be with you shortly. Tom says: Hello Apex. My name is Tom. Let me check please. Apex says: Thanks Tom says: Yes, that price is suggested retail when it becomes available. Apex says: Thank you! Do you have any information on when it might come available? Apex says: Also, is there any possibility you might have a similar setup with the 1.0L Ecoboost coming? Tom says: You will find it for less if you do some shopping around! Tom says: Not at this time. Apex says: Thank you for your time Tom says: Anytime sir!
2002maniac
2002maniac Dork
6/3/15 9:34 a.m.

Why is the ecoboost engine w/o control kit listed for $8000? I'm thinking the $6k price must be an error.

http://fordperformanceracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=22999

Driven5
Driven5 Dork
6/3/15 9:48 a.m.

In reply to 2002maniac:

Either that or they're going to slash the price on the engines w/o control kit. Who knows?...Maybe that was that "while we catch up to demand on EB Mustangs" engine price.

Apexcarver
Apexcarver PowerDork
6/3/15 9:50 a.m.
2002maniac wrote: Why is the ecoboost engine w/o control kit listed for $8000? I'm thinking the $6k price must be an error. http://fordperformanceracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=22999

That was my thinking as well, but the chat indicates...

Papabear
Papabear New Reader
6/3/15 9:59 a.m.

Anyone know what RWD transmissions will bolt to the Ecoboost? Wonder how off the engine mounts from a Miata are for this engine.

RossD
RossD PowerDork
6/3/15 10:06 a.m.

I think it would be any Duratec/MZR transmission. i.e. Ranger or Miata transmission.

Kreb
Kreb GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/3/15 10:19 a.m.

My question would be which transmissions would hold up to that kind of power - particularly for middie application?

kanaric
kanaric Dork
6/3/15 10:48 a.m.

Wondering about transmissions as well.

It would be funny to put this into like a Merkur or some kind of fox body.

Or something completely different.... like a Starion.

kanaric
kanaric Dork
6/3/15 10:53 a.m.

wow just read that and it comes WITH that "controls pack" it talks about. $6000 for crate engine + ecu and 360ft/lbs or torque? Sign me up.

Too bad I already have a project.

Apexcarver
Apexcarver PowerDork
6/3/15 10:59 a.m.

Another thought, it has OBD2, so those under the yoke of emissions have that going for it. (plus diagnostics)

bgkast
bgkast GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/3/15 11:08 a.m.

The ECU Kit alone is $1900, so engine, ECU, Starter, Intercooler Air intake for $6000 is a bargain.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/3/15 11:37 a.m.
Apexcarver wrote: Another thought, it has OBD2, so those under the yoke of emissions have that going for it. (plus diagnostics)

Keep in mind that it won't return a full range of OBD-II codes. If it's anything like the GM ones, it'll return a stripped-out subset. Codes will simply return "not applicable" for things like cat monitoring and evap. Some states are cool with this, others are not.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
6/3/15 11:42 a.m.

Where's my Exocet??

bluej
bluej SuperDork
6/3/15 11:47 a.m.

this motor is in my girlfriend's new MKC. need to figure out how to get a hold of that tune..

jv8
jv8 GRM+ Memberand New Reader
6/3/15 11:57 a.m.
SVreX wrote: Where's my Exocet??

In a lightweight Exocet would the stock Miata trans hold 360 lb-ft?

How do you think overall weight would compare: ecoboost 2.0T vs Miata turbo vs LSx?

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