Formula 1 2023 Season

Danny should have taken a lesson or two from Danica, or any other oval racer, about letting go of the steering wheel as you head towards the wall.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

Yeah, I've done that stupid thing too. Broke the same bone as Danny Ric. 

Crazy race there. Lots of team mistakes, and somehow they are being muted by the SC and Red Flag. 

I have to say, it sucks that the wet tires are bigger than the dry ones, leading to pit lane speeding penalties that should not really happen like that. 
 

And what is the point of the extreme wet tires when the race is stopped when the conditions are correct for them?  I know the race was actually stopped for the wreck, but they were talking SC or red flag before it happened. Extreme west are way to slow relative to the inters. 

Some tough strategy choices early in the day.  How did George suffer so badly when Albon didn't?  I have missed something...

Streetwiseguy said:

Some tough strategy choices early in the day.  How did George suffer so badly when Albon didn't?  I have missed something...

George got a puncture in a racing incident. He was in the points until then. 

In reply to Javelin :

I think he meant at the beginning where Albon was able to stay farther up the field when it rained and neither driver changed to rain tires. 
 

One interesting side effect of that was both drives had to switch away from the soft tires as they hadn't put inters on. 

George had no grip and was sliding around the first lap, by the time his tires got right the track was wet. Multiple pit stops where the tires weren't ready was an interesting one

I think we should discuss the NMC competition.  Alonso did a very nice job today, Checo was lucky not to lose more.  I saw afterwards the speeding penalty was coming in for the full wets, he bounced it off the wall slowing in pit lane, and was 60.8 kmph across the line.

NMC: Not Max Class.

CWTW: cant' wait to watch (the rebroadcast)

superfund said:

George had no grip and was sliding around the first lap, by the time his tires got right the track was wet. Multiple pit stops where the tires weren't ready was an interesting one

It was a problem for a few teams. I don't know why they aren't watching their drivers at all time and have the tires ready to go. Especially right after then start when everybody came in for intermediates. It's the 3rd lap and just started pouring.... what else would they be pulling for?

In reply to crankwalk (Forum Supporter) :

It was almost as if the teams need to supplement their metorlogical crew with someone local- not many teams got the intensity of that lap one rain right. 

I'm not a Max fan.....in fact he's one of the few drivers I don't like but he nailed every bit on the weekend, kudos to him.

There is a lot of dislike for Max, but today he showed why he's a two-time and soon to be three-time world champion. Redbull obviously have such an advantage that it's hard to compare Max's driving with other's, but I think only Hamilton and Alonzo are possibly in the same league as Max. But regardless of speed, Max just doesn't make many mistakes that hurt him.

That was a really fun race. 

The event in Amsterdam was great if a bit on the soggy side.  Grabbed a spot in the stands just before Tarzan which gave me a view of the pits and pit exit.  It was prime viewing for the late in the race ice skating as all the grip evaporated in 1-2 laps.

The fans and facilities were all very good.  Logistics of moving that many folks in and out was a touch messy but the crowd was in good spirits as were the event coordinators and staff.

^Were you participating in the singalongs? You picked an exciting one to go to.

Race was a fine example of why every track needs a sprinkler system,and ditch all street circuits. :)

Keith Tanner said:

That was a really fun race. 

+1

Checo, RB knew you were going to get passed by Max.  Better for them to do it in the pits than let you guys duke it out.  

Loved Alonso's dig at Alpine about not going to podium in the past 2 years while his replacement was P3. 

Not many were expecting to see Pierre Gasly but you can never be sure in F1, what gonna happen next.

Yeah Gasly making it on the podium was good, also Lawson finished above Yuki on debut 

jmabarone said:

Checo, RB knew you were going to get passed by Max.  Better for them to do it in the pits than let you guys duke it out.  

Yeah, I think when you're losing 2 seconds per lap to your teammate on a 1 minute lap you give up the "right" to the preferred strategy, even if you're the lead car at the moment. Max was so much faster, it made no sense for either driver to lose time or take a risk during the overtake. Smart move by RedBull to swap them in the pits like that. 

I wish we could have seen the last half lap for Lewis and friends. 0.023s gap between Lewis and Norris at the line, things got spicy right at the end.

Mercedes managed a beautiful double stack pit stop on the second switch to intermediates. Those are tough to do. They're not as quick as Red Bull on a single car stop, but I don't know if anyone else can do a double stack as fast as they can. They're certainly more comfortable doing it than others.

Also, best radio call of the race, paraphrased:

Engineer to Sainz (I think): "Lewis is 0.4s seconds behind you..." (or something like that)
Sainz: "LESS RADIO"
Engineer, quietly: "copy"

Ok, since no one else is saying it.  Any bets on who replaces Logan Sargeant at WIlliams next season?  I felt bad for the guy after he binned the car twice this weekend, albeit in challenging conditions.    

EDIT:  looks like the team is taking the blame on him going out so early, power steering failure https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/motorsports/hydraulic-problem-causes-sargeant-s-crash-in-dutch-gp/ar-AA1fSUun

alfadriver said:

I have to say, it sucks that the wet tires are bigger than the dry ones, leading to pit lane speeding penalties that should not really happen like that. 

It's F1, it should not be difficult for the car to figure out what tires are installed and adjust the pit lane limiter appropriately.