That RB-Ferrari sandwich was never going to end well. Charles did well to only touch one of the bulls.
That RB-Ferrari sandwich was never going to end well. Charles did well to only touch one of the bulls.
Ouch. That really changes things up a lot. With the way the Ferrari's launched at the start, a lot lies on how they restart this race.
Interesting to hear Max complain that everything was fine and they should get back to racing w/o a red flag. And his race engineer suggested that it was the other teams who wanted to stop. That was a lot of barrier damage. I know they don't want to red flag and risk a restart, but lets be realistic here- that was a hard wreck to clean up after.
Hamilton passing LeClerc in a huge dust cloud was fun to watch.
Guys trying really hard was neat to see but another Verstappen blowout.
The guy is in the zone and doing everything right.
As a Hamilton fan it was great to see him on the podium.
As a Ferrari fan I really wanted to hear the Italian national anthem play but all things considered the podium was good.
The move Lando made on Daniel was impressive,pretty happy to see him sucker Georgy boy after that....(all he does is whine and call out everyone elses moves and question the teams decisions.....just do what your paid for son)
Daniel showed he still has it,I REALLY struggle to see him not driving Perez's car next yr.
So I'm hearing that there is no room on the grid for Checo and Danny eh?
I agree with Kevlarcorolla, seeing how well DannyRickyBobby did with the Alfa Tauri nee Toro Rosso was encouraging. And despite Horner putting his arm around Checo and telling him it was ok, it wasn't. His season has fallen apart and all it will take for him to "retire" this off season is a couple more good races from Danny boy.
4 races left, can Max win them all?
In reply to 759NRNG :
I'd rather see 2 guys with multiple chances in F1 make room for the young guns yes.
And no RB can't continue to win constructors titles with one VERY inconsistent driver,doesn't mean no room in F1 for Checo but.....
In reply to kevlarcorolla :
You say that - but they've never taken 1-2 in the driver's championship. And it's not a given this year if Checo steps on his crank again.
Best part about this race was the mariachi version of the F1 theme during the intro. I'm not being sarcastic, it was great.
In reply to Keith Tanner :
How many points did Lewis lose thru no fault of his own last weekend ;)
I think the best driver pairing on the grid is Lando and Piastri and now that they've figured their car out next yr is going to tough for RB to repeat constructors even if they continue their dominance unless they get Max a Bottas clone.
We should get T-shirts that say
"Ferrari Gives You Wings"
Is there any greater actor on the planet than Lewis, telling everyone how his tires won't last, and it's not possible to finish...
It is really starting to look like the Merc is trending towards Lewis' favored characteristics, and George is suffering for it. The 44 was certainly the second place car today, although Lando might have beaten him, but for screwing the pooch Saturday.
In reply to Streetwiseguy :
George was curious today- seems that he should have done a better job setting Sainz, like Lewis did to LeClerc, but he kept trying to do the same thing until he had to give up. I'm not sure George is that bad off with the car trend- he was still quick with it- just that he could not find a way past Carlos.
In reply to MiniDave :
Horner HAD to look like a loving father in that moment.....he was still IN Mexico and needed to get out alive ;)
Max just needs 9 pts/race weekend to clinch P2 in the WCC.
Guess Checo didn't learn anything from Qatar.
Tough crash for K-Mag.
Norris really earned DOTD. 17th to 10th, then after the restart went 14th to 5th, at a track that was difficult for passing all day. Just really at the top of his game, with quick thinking to avoid getting pinched at the restart (at the cost of 4 places) and those magnificently clean passes on Ricciardo and Russell.
The Hamilton hasn't won in XYZ many grand prix drum is getting tired, if he wins then its then championship form drum. It's sad that drum isn't touched for Alonso winning. It's funny that my season starting prediction of Alonso criticizing the team nearly took 3/4 of the season to happen. I am also surprised by Alonso support of Lance Stroll, everyone has taken a shot at his driving. Aston Martin combination of copycatting RB and Vettel really helped the car along, but it doesn't look promising for the future, I think that would be a interesting spot for Checo if RB pulls the rug and Lance Retires.
Logan was going to finish a respectable 12th, but a fuel pump problem made him pit, which was a bummer. I thought he raced pretty decent and put some really good passes on others. Hard to imagine that he will out qualify Albon this year (is that one of the goals to make it to next years grid?), as much as I hate to put it out there it would be interesting if Checo moved to Williams (assuming RB is all but done). The chanting for RIC to RB is as exciting as Eddie Irvine or Bottas being replaced by Ruben Barrichello.
Andretti team snubbing from the outside just looks like a bunch of hazing. He is going to get the extra money the teams now want, the 2023 spec car has either done the wind tunnel or will so soon. I know that Herta is at the "top of the list" I think they should roll the dice with big money to Vettel or Sainz. Getting a critical eye would probably help the team.
As much as I love him, the Ricciardo hype train is a bit optimistic. His performance has been highly inconsistent since leaving RB. I would love to be proven wrong, but I predict he doesn't get any more points in the remaining races.
trigun7469 said:Andretti team snubbing from the outside just looks like a bunch of hazing. He is going to get the extra money the teams now want, the 2023 spec car has either done the wind tunnel or will so soon. I know that Herta is at the "top of the list" I think they should roll the dice with big money to Vettel or Sainz. Getting a critical eye would probably help the team.
Herta can occupy any position on their list they want him to, but until he has enough Superlicense points, it doesn't matter. It's time for him to stop promising and start showing in Indycar. Then he'll get his chance in F1.
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) said:trigun7469 said:Andretti team snubbing from the outside just looks like a bunch of hazing. He is going to get the extra money the teams now want, the 2023 spec car has either done the wind tunnel or will so soon. I know that Herta is at the "top of the list" I think they should roll the dice with big money to Vettel or Sainz. Getting a critical eye would probably help the team.
Herta can occupy any position on their list they want him to, but until he has enough Superlicense points, it doesn't matter. It's time for him to stop promising and start showing in Indycar. Then he'll get his chance in F1.
As far as I'm concerned, the same thing can be said of Andretti Racing. Based on their last decade of Indycar results, this looks like a massive money grab.
If they can't compete for wins and championships is a largely spec series, how can anyone expect them to do well in F1?
alfadriver said:Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) said:trigun7469 said:Andretti team snubbing from the outside just looks like a bunch of hazing. He is going to get the extra money the teams now want, the 2023 spec car has either done the wind tunnel or will so soon. I know that Herta is at the "top of the list" I think they should roll the dice with big money to Vettel or Sainz. Getting a critical eye would probably help the team.
Herta can occupy any position on their list they want him to, but until he has enough Superlicense points, it doesn't matter. It's time for him to stop promising and start showing in Indycar. Then he'll get his chance in F1.
As far as I'm concerned, the same thing can be said of Andretti Racing. Based on their last decade of Indycar results, this looks like a massive money grab.
If they can't compete for wins and championships is a largely spec series, how can anyone expect them to do well in F1?
Agreed. Also, they are already spread pretty thin. Seems to me they should get their house in order before trying to crack the hardest nut in motorsports. But, Micheal seems to have convinced some folks with a lot of money that this is doable.
Honestly, if Andretti could get their E36 M3 together in Indycar, Herta's results would follow. He's not the problem, IMO.
Just when I think the other teams are gaining on RedBull Max wins by 14 seconds, after having to give up a 16 second lead at the red flag.
In reply to Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) :
AA is as inconsistent as it gets on the indycar grid. Herta would need to switch to CGR or Penske. In the offseason Herta should be racing anything he can get his hands on overseas to get use to the f1 tracks.
In reply to alfadriver :
F1/FIA/Team owners would be stupid to close the door on Andretti, All of racing revolves around money and everyone wants to money grab, Andretti is a name that speaks around the world. Regardless of what AA has or hasn't done in indycar, Penske and CGR do not get the credit that should for being excellent teams. F1 has been dominated by two teams and 3 drivers the last 13 years, who is expecting anyone else to dominate? let alone win a race. F1 is divided into 3 tiers back of the pack, mid, and 1 or 2 teams upfront. Honestly right now RB is in a tier of itself.
Keith Tanner said:Best part about this race was the mariachi version of the F1 theme during the intro. I'm not being sarcastic, it was great.
I loved that! It was so well done, could have easily come off as patronizing but they nailed it.
CrashDummy said:Just when I think the other teams are gaining on RedBull Max wins by 14 seconds, after having to give up a 16 second lead at the red flag.
Some of that is thrown off by the tire changes at the red flag -- Verstappen was the only one of the leaders to have another set of new hards to throw on the car.
Also, Hamilton clearly had more pace in reserve that he was saving in case LeClerc got close. Not enough to catch Max, but he went 2 seconds faster on the final lap, taking the fast lap point.
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