I was glad that I took the wife on a date during race time and then watched it at 2x fast forward. If I had watched that live I would have been thoroughly disappointed. The Chad vs. Checo scrap was top notch, the rest was a snoozefest.
I was glad that I took the wife on a date during race time and then watched it at 2x fast forward. If I had watched that live I would have been thoroughly disappointed. The Chad vs. Checo scrap was top notch, the rest was a snoozefest.
In reply to alfadriver :
Yes sir 100% my point.
SVG was asked why he's leaving V8 supercars to come run nascrap and he said tires.....spec tire can't be pushed so you cruise around in a line to save them.
I want to see the best drivers pushing the best cars over a full race distance,quali is neat to see what they can do on low fuel and everything dialed to 11 but its just a time attack at that point.
Lets be honest,sundays race is really a sprint race as well.
In reply to NY Nick :
If you watched the first 5 laps and the last 5 laps the race was good............but there wasn't much meat in the sandwich.
In reply to Tom1200 :
Agreed, that's just about what I did. I watched the pit cycles too.
My $0.02:
So glad Leclercs hydraulics didn't let go at 200 mph but damn he has had it rough.
also Alonso is just a pure legend. Loved watching him school Perez with a slower car.
Am I the only person who think that Lando's career is looking like Jean Alesi, lot's or promise but a combination of bad luck and mistakes. Piastra has been inconsistent but could year 2 change that and maybe create a Gehard Berger situation and change of #1 status.
The race wasn't horrible, it did have it's moments, the Alonso vs Perez and the earlier Verstappen vs Norris was good to watch as well. I also like watching the Mercedes (Hamiton) have it go bad at the end. I want that to happen to Verstappen as well to show that he isn't unbeatable.
What I don't like is the number of races now. It just isn't as big of a deal as it used to be. 23 races is just too much. If you miss one or two or even 5 now so what, who cares? Everyone is complaining about the cost of the series, take some races away, plan the schedule better so that it isn't criss crossing the planet every month.
The shine is dulling on F1. I still watch of course, but it just doesn't hold my attention like it once did.
In reply to Mike924 :
that's what happens when your focus is on making money instead of genuine sport. That's why The Challenge is so appealing to The Hive.
So Vegas is a week and half away.....................I should be stoked but between the ticket prices and the hype I am just not.
Tickets are still available and I can actually afford one but between the time (I likely wouldn't get home until 2AM) and the weather (gonna be cool and windy) I'm just not that jazzed.
Throw in the fact that it's a street course and I am not that jazzed................sigh.
trigun7469 said:Am I the only person who think that Lando's career is looking like Jean Alesi, lot's or promise but a combination of bad luck and mistakes. Piastra has been inconsistent but could year 2 change that and maybe create a Gehard Berger situation and change of #1 status.
I feel like it's less bad luck and mistakes, and more the misfortune of having to compete at the same time of Verstappen's absolute domination. The front running Red Bull is having the most dominant season in F1 history.
The McLaren hasn't had podium pace until recently, and Lando is doing his part to put the car up front. I just don't think the hardware supports an outright win against Verstappen, short of a big mistake in strategy or driver error, which are few and far between.
In reply to Tom1200 :
I'm not sure if its to make it easier to watch for european audiences or just playing into the vegas late night thing, but I really shoulnd't have to berkeley my sleep schedule to watch a race in my own country
In reply to Tom1200 :
We're heading to Vegas for the event - mostly to walk around and gawk. I just checked randomly and while there are some tickets, things like a weekend pass at the Sphere is still over $4500 for a pair of seats with all the taxes and Ticketmaster fees. That's just not gonna happen. We're going to watch it on TV at home. It should be one heck of a spectacle to see. No idea if there will be any good racing or not, it'll just be eye candy.
Unfortunately, it looks like a lot of other things are shut down over the weekend.
In reply to Keith Tanner :
When you walk around, keep an eye out for the impact on the people who live there. Just saw a video that showed the race being a huge burden on the public- especially the workers at the casinos. Seems that there will be a lot of pressure to keep the contract to a bare minimum unless the benefit is spread out to more people.
One of the interesting notes is that there's a big concern that the Europeans coming to Vegas won't be big tippers, and given the pain, the local really want the best tips they have ever had for this weekend.
alfadriver said:In reply to Keith Tanner :
When you walk around, keep an eye out for the impact on the people who live there. Just saw a video that showed the race being a huge burden on the public- especially the workers at the casinos. Seems that there will be a lot of pressure to keep the contract to a bare minimum unless the benefit is spread out to more people.
One of the interesting notes is that there's a big concern that the Europeans coming to Vegas won't be big tippers, and given the pain, the local really want the best tips they have ever had for this weekend.
Traffic is a total poo through the area.
alfadriver said:In reply to Keith Tanner :
When you walk around, keep an eye out for the impact on the people who live there. Just saw a video that showed the race being a huge burden on the public- especially the workers at the casinos. Seems that there will be a lot of pressure to keep the contract to a bare minimum unless the benefit is spread out to more people.
One of the interesting notes is that there's a big concern that the Europeans coming to Vegas won't be big tippers, and given the pain, the local really want the best tips they have ever had for this weekend.
Conversely, before you leave a tip, make sure they didn't already add one for you. My wife was out there a week or so ago and reported that the Uber drivers were saying that in anticipation of the Ugly Europeans arriving for the race they were planning to put 15% upcharges on rides to cover the tips they're expecting to miss.
In reply to wae :
That's good to know. I'm a little tired of tipping culture anyhow.
If only you could build an isolated facility for hosting automotive contests of speed. It could be a permanent facility and be used throughout the year for other events. Such a facility could be designed to offer the best fan experiences and the safest environment for the drivers and spectators. It could be designed with multiple controlled access points to enable optimization of flow to and from the event for those observing and minimal impact on the surrounding communities. The communities could then see the economic benefits without undue hardships.
Man it's unfortunate construction of such a facility doesn't work.
F1 Pahrump just doesn't have the same ring to it :)
Keith Tanner said:F1 Pahrump just doesn't have the same ring to it :)
Even if they had the infrastructure Spring Mtn wouldnt lend itself to F1 cars.
I say this as someone whose run the track for the last 25 years and run every layout.
In reply to Tom1200 :
I haven't been there since the infrastructre was a Quonset hut :)
Keith Tanner said:In reply to Tom1200 :
I haven't been there since the infrastructre was a Quonset hut :)
There are no condos, a clubhouse, garages and proper bathrooms. Additionally there are now three operate tracks with their own paddocks.
I'm an old guy, I remember Can-Am races at Stardust.
Odd that there is so much negativity about F1 in Las Vegas in news reports the algorithms send to my web searches. Just like Miami, I expect there to be significant lessons learned to improve the event for next year. It will not be AWESOME this year. But then again maybe it will. We will have to wait and see.
Sounds like the same gripes that moved the Detroit GP from downtown to Belle Isle and back again.
I must say that over the 4-6 times I have been in Las Vegas for more than a couple days I hated every minute of it. I liked nothing about the city from Henderson to Centennial Hills(or whatever that town was called). So having a race in the city never appealed to me. But then again, it should work after a few years. I probably would only go because I have family I could stay with to reduce the costs.
Advan046 said:Odd that there is so much negativity about F1 in Las Vegas in news reports the algorithms send to my web searches. Just like Miami, I expect there to be significant lessons learned to improve the event for next year. It will not be AWESOME this year. But then again maybe it will. We will have to wait and see.
I get a lot of those suggestions, too. While I imagine it's pretty impactful for local residents, especially for those who couldn't care less about F1, I kinda feel like it's also to get clicks. Angertainment is the norm these days and a big event like this will draw people to learn about it and, of course, they'll be more likely to click the "F1 is the end of days" type of video than something else.
I'm excited for the race. I think it'll be a cool spectacle and will hopefully look awesome under the lights. The track is a bit "meh", but the long straight down the main drag will be cool. I expect low drag packages ala Monza, so Williams might have a shot to mix some things up. I just hope it's successful enough that they don't have to abandon the investment and exciting enough to make it one to look forward to each year.
And, not that it has anything to do with the race, but I'm hoping Brundle's pit walk will be fun. :)
-Rob
It's funny, a pilot friend of mine had a layover in LV the other day and he sent me a video of the view from his hotel. You could see a third to half the track. Told him his room would be worth $20K in a week and a half. He just wondered what the airline was paying for it.
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