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MiniDave
MiniDave HalfDork
11/3/24 3:44 p.m.

This race was a mess, I imagine they're glad they have 3 weeks to recover, but I wonder if some teams are out of cap money now? I'm betting the teams will be happy to be back in the deserts.

Nothing like a good rain storm to even up the field and let some of the back markers come forward. Alpine made a major step forward in the standings, worth a load of $$$$ to them at the end of the year.

Sad for HAAS, but Lawson and Tsunoda sure made the best of the weekend. Both look like they should be driving for Red Bull instead of for the junior team, and both of them beat Perez even after the penalty to Piastri.

 

kevlarcorolla
kevlarcorolla Dork
11/3/24 4:58 p.m.

In reply to gixxeropa :

I've said the same here before,unless there's a pc of car hanging out of the tire they AND the car should be unchangeable.

JimS
JimS Reader
11/3/24 6:06 p.m.

In reply to Streetwiseguy :

They're all whiney. Always have ben. 

adam525i
adam525i GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/3/24 6:50 p.m.
maschinenbau said:

Feel bad for those who pitted for full wets, only for race control to deem conditions too unsafe. Maybe if everyone had wets on, they'd be allowed to race... Honestly they should just ditch the full wets, rename the inters as wet, and SC for visibility as necessary.

Agreed, I'd ditch both inter and wet and replace with a tire just a bit more rain ready than the current inter and have it wear a bit harder in damp conditions to force tire changes/strategy.

SC for rain when 80% of the field is on inters seems like bullE36 M3 to me.

It was nice to see a wet race mostly run though today even if there was a bit of SC/Red flag.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
11/3/24 7:23 p.m.
adam525i said:
maschinenbau said:

Feel bad for those who pitted for full wets, only for race control to deem conditions too unsafe. Maybe if everyone had wets on, they'd be allowed to race... Honestly they should just ditch the full wets, rename the inters as wet, and SC for visibility as necessary.

Agreed, I'd ditch both inter and wet and replace with a tire just a bit more rain ready than the current inter and have it wear a bit harder in damp conditions to force tire changes/strategy.

SC for rain when 80% of the field is on inters seems like bullE36 M3 to me.

It was nice to see a wet race mostly run though today even if there was a bit of SC/Red flag.

How many more times do we have to go through this?  Every time the track goes to full wets, the race is stopped.  If that's the trigger to stop the race, then don't bother with the full wet tires- that saves a money in many ways by not having to make, carry, or dispose of those.  Pointless.

glyn ellis
glyn ellis Reader
11/4/24 1:08 p.m.
gixxeropa said:

Lando simply doesn't have that dawg in him, don't think he'll get a championship unless he has a massively superior car next year. Even then, I think there's a chance piastri wins out 

Not sure that Piastri could do better. When VER came up behind him, he gave up without a fight. Not sure why Zak didn't request that Piastri make his car as wide as possible.

 

As a non-Max fan, I tip my hat to his performance. Absolutely dominant in the race in Brazil.

kevlarcorolla
kevlarcorolla Dork
11/4/24 1:26 p.m.

If the red hadn't come out I wonder if Max would've really got much further towards the front.

 Prior to that he was stuck behind Leclec for lap after lap showing no signs of moving forward,and being Max you can bet he would've passed if he could.

 

 

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
11/4/24 2:24 p.m.

In reply to kevlarcorolla :

If we are going to play the could of game, if Lando got off to a better start, and got ahead of George, he may have been far enough ahead to pit while the VSC was still out, and gotten the "free" pit stop.  Or if McLaren was more observant, they may have guessed that the VSC was about to end, and left him out to get in front of George- which would totally changed the red.

kevlarcorolla
kevlarcorolla Dork
11/4/24 4:16 p.m.

In reply to alfadriver :

The things you listed were up to the driver/team to make happen,the red flag was just luck.

 Without that luck I'm not convinced Max makes it to the front and drives off.

 While it was a damn good drive by Max to be sute was it really a once in a generation drive the pundits are blathering on about?

 I mean Lewis made it from 20th to the lead last yr without the help of retirements or a free pitstop.(although he was less then impressive this yr lol)

 

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
11/4/24 4:50 p.m.

In reply to kevlarcorolla :

I'm also seeing that Max is sticking it to the FIA and the British press.  Given his drive yesterday, I see the exact opposite.  

Just get in and drive, Max, that's all you need to to.

That whining about a chance change in the running- you had two of them go your way for the VSC and then the red flag.  If you were paying attention, in the end, the random rulings become even over time.  (and the complaining about the red during qualy was a red herring, since there was a second accident that forced it at that time).

The whining about the penalties where he's driving other cars off the track?  You drove really well, and super clean for all the passes they showed during the race.  So why do you feel the need to literally bully drivers off the track, or crash into you to make a pass?

You think you made a point that you are the best driver in the world, well, then put it up for the rest of the races, and stop whining when you don't get your way.  And stop having to bully other cars when they are faster. Your "skill" should be capable of keeping it clean (and ahead, if you are really that good).

Stop whining and drive.  Apparently you can actually do that.

kevlarcorolla
kevlarcorolla Dork
11/4/24 8:37 p.m.

In reply to alfadriver :

While I agree with your view I'm struggling to grasp how that's a response to me.

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