Found me a new toy :)

Several years ago, I was rebuilding the engine in my '91 Capri XR2. I noticed the manifold was cracked and found a new one and a Corksport turbo (with 5000 Miles on them) so I bought them. Well the turbo was too big and wouldn't allow the manifold to bolt up. I can't remember the specs on the turbo but i do remember it was a Ballbearing center cartridge with a Hitachi Turbo II Compressor. Well the friend I sold that turbo to offered me a deal I can't pass up.... he has a F2T swapped MX3 with a 5 lug swap, RX7 Twin Turbo Wheels, 4 wheel disc swap, ported and polished head, BIG FMIC, MSD BTC and that Honkin Corksport turbo I sold him on it.... Sounds fun huh ;)

I'll post pics when I get it home when the weather fairs up.

that sounds like a right screamer.

I've heard with a chip and boost turned up to 15psi, you get 230hp and 300ftlbs. I'm stoked!

..... An F2T-swapped MX3?

That's... interesting.

One think you need to find out before you pick it up though, and it MAY be a deal-breaker. You need to find out what transmission he used. If he used the H-Type, then you're golden. If he used the G-type (which is easier to swap in a BG chassis/mx3 chassis), then run. You'll be snapping transmissions like twigs. Swapping the H-type in there isn't an easy task, either.

My guess is that with that turbo (if it's as big as i'm thinking it is), you should see at least those numbers. To the wheels. With the headwork and the other stuff, possibly more. What you listed is about the limit of the stock fuel system, though.

MSD BTC? Boost Timing Control module? Ditch that unless you end up with a chip that modifies timing. The stock timing map is plenty conservative, no need to take out more and lose performance.

RC 370cc injectors, AFPR, and a Walbro 255lph HP pump will get you the fuel you need to hit just about 300whp. It'll play ok with the stock ECU, too.

Oh, and i'm calling dibs right now in case you EVER decide to sell it.

He is a Master Auto Tech. The car was pieced together from a wreck MX6 GT (hence the H Typs Trans). Its already mine, just gotta make it there to get it :) not sure about the boost or fuel settings honestly, I'll know more when go to get it. Thats gonna be ALOTA power for such a small care... With some decent rubber this thing will be a riot :D

pics or ban...Im just sayin what everybody else is thinkin

Hopin to go next week of so to bring her home :D

dansxr2 wrote: He is a Master Auto Tech. The car was pieced together from a wreck MX6 GT (hence the H Typs Trans). Its already mine, just gotta make it there to get it :) not sure about the boost or fuel settings honestly, I'll know more when go to get it. Thats gonna be ALOTA power for such a small care... With some decent rubber this thing will be a riot :D

Oh cool, that should work well, then.

Don't expect it to be ridiculously fast right now (though still faster than your xr2), MX3s aren't really much lighter than a 1g MX6. They ARE smaller and nimbler, though. Should be a great combo if you can put down power.

mndsm wrote: that sounds like a right screamer.

F2Ts don't scream. They...... vomit.

One of the worst sounding motors ever made. But they do move pretty well.

Yeah, F2T is kind of a moaner, and making them sound interesting would be a fun task only if you have your own lift, welder, and plenty of money to throw at parts and tube.

The idea of putting more than stock power through an H-type makes me hope you like rebuilding & swapping transmissions. There's that Toyota trans swap for the F-engines that I would be curious of if I had a car like the one you're talking about.

^In vein with that post.... DO NOT REST YOUR HAND ON THE SHIFTER WHILE DRIVING. That's the leading cause of death for the H-type. They're extra-sensitive to that for whatever reason.

As for longevity under power, you either get a good one, or you don't. Doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason as to when or why they go, unfortunately. The closest thing to good advice i can give in terms of what i've seen? Slap a BIG turbo on that thing. What is thought to kill the trans is the insanely quick torque spike the stock peashooter turbo gives you.

Seems more likely to blow your trans on a stock turbo, or a T3 50trim or the like, than you are if you were to slap a Holset HX40 on there.

The real high HP guys' transmissions tend to hold together until they start trying 2nd gear launches on wrinkle-wall tires.

Mine is holding up just fine with 180k miles on it, and i'm making at least double the stock power. (stock clutch, too, for that matter)

Its gonna be a fun 2nd car for me and I'll prolly occationally autoX it, looks like I'll be in (SMF) A new coilover set and some poly bushings will be in order. God I'm gettin excited...

BUMP!!!!!

Did you get this?!?! I NEED TO KNOW.

I was reminded by THIS:

wow that is clean as sh

its mine :) thats a 323 or Protege? Mine is an MX3I will post pics early next week.

Very noice indeed! I like that, touring car that sucker!

That car is a Protege. I wish i could find more info on it. I want to know exactly what it took to swap the F2T in it.

Much as i'm sure it would kill me, my F2T in a 323 hatch would be awesome amounts of fun.

Dan, can you please take lots of detailed pics, and if you could find out what getting that motor in that car entailed, that would be GREAT. I'm especially interested in the work done to get the H-series trans in there, and axles and hubs and all that.

BTW, i was serious about the dibs on that car. If you ever sell it.... ME ME ME ME ME ME!!!!!

That could be a HELL of an SMF car.

What is an F2T?

amg_rx7 wrote: What is an F2T?

Overbuilt brick E36 M3house mazda dinosaur motor.

2.2 litres of turbo SOHC 12v 7.8:1 compression goodness. It's roots come from a diesel truck motor, and it takes the same oil to prove it. (20w50)

There's another world of old mazda 4-bangers besides the B6/BPs, that being the F-series. The "effs" are better, in my sometimes-not-so-humble opinion. They're bigger, stronger, and just plain mean.

Capable of STUPID amounts of torque without breaking a sweat, and mazda saw it fit to put it in only FWD cars. Oh well.

Think of it like a Mazda turbo Mopar, and it makes sense. Though honestly, i think the F2T has some certain advantages, but that's more opinion than anything.

I don't think anyone has blown one of these due to too much power. It's always been lack of maintenance or tuning problems. Forged crank, forged rods, hyperpeutic pistons. They do NOT like detonation, but that's pretty much their only weakness.

Dan could probably make well over 300whp and ~450wtq for a pretty minimal investment.

I have no idea what my 180k mile stock motor is making, but it's handled up to 25psi out of my current turbo setup without complaining. It sure was moving, too.

But with the regular "F2" being put in B2200 trucks, and almost sharing a bell housing with the FC RX7.... i'm sure you can see where i'm going with this.

There are at least a couple F2T-powered RX7s in existence, a LOT of F2T B2200s, a couple Bongo Vans, a Ford Transit or two, and even an AE86 enjoying F2T power.

Woops! ^^^Beat me to it

I am sure that this particular swap happened simply because the parts were there so why not, but if I were you I would start looking at FE3 motors. DOHC, 8k redling, same motor mounts

^You can pry my F2T out of my cold, dead, clammy hands.

The design of the F2T has a few quirks that make me think that it has at least the potential of the FE3, if not more. Stay tuned in the next couple months.

Just remember that the head design of the F2T seems almost MADE especially for spooling ginormous turbos way earlier than any other 4-banger in existence. When you're getting full boost out of a Holset HX40 before 4000rpms, the jig is up.

That's great for drag racing, but there's not a lot of useable power band when you hit full boost at 4000rpm and your redline is 5600rpms. Know what I mean?