FUUUUUUU!!!!!!!! Big Brother is you.

CGLock - assuming that ripping out said nannies is still legal for a vehicle registered for use on on public roadways where you live.

stuart in mn wrote: I don't know if it's any different than people calling the police to report another driver for illegal or erratic behavior. It just makes the process simpler.

The big difference is that involving the police means that there's a set legal process whereas this suggest essentially bases its data and the resulting interpretations of the data on hearsay.

So basically, your driving record will soon be based on people whose perception of dangerous driving is that they're the best drivers in the world and anybody who drives in a different manner to them is clearly dangerous. All without a governing legal framework, all based on the presumption that you're guilty anyway.

If that's not berkeleyed up I don't know what is.

Hey Zomby, I used to live in SW Ontario,hence my question. You can pass a vehicle when there's a solid yellow line?

Absolutely, on the right, as well.

People don't know the rules of the road, but they think they do.

ansonivan wrote: Good, I've been talking about something like this for ages. I think it's a great idea.

...if used correctly, but like Jim said, you just don't know that.

ex. The little old lady you "flew by" at 65 (while she was driving 50 on the freeway) gets upset and calls you in for "reckless driving". When do opinions get counted?

All I want to know is who will be on top of the leader board

So I see another forum for people to overload the system with false date.

Zomby woof wrote: Absolutely, on the right, as well. People don't know the rules of the road, but they think they do.

Seriously?

What does a solid yellow mean up their?

In America land..

Dotted line is passing allowed both sides Solid / Dotted is passing allowed on dotted side, not on Solid Double Solid is No passing at all.

Lines are to be used as a guideline. A solid means use caution when passing.

If passing is not allowed, there will be a sign.

Some provinces have solid line laws.

Capt Slow wrote: As I have said before, I am all for ending driver anonymity

please leave

Report only those that are in the system. IF you don't subscribe you can not report or be reported on. A kind of pay to be policed and be the police thing.

This will never fly for many reasons.

We already have sell phones if someone really needs reporting call the police and report it.

I can see people reporting expired parking meters

Hay bikers need plates as do pedestrians so drivers can report them

The really scary part is CA and MA are places where I can actually see this taking hold.

Soo...the same idiots who can't even be trusted to hold a phone conversation behind the wheel, now have to key up this little app to tattle on other drivers?

I can see it now, I pass a member of the anti-destination squad on the right on the highway, they get miffed and try to report me, and end up upside down in the median.

I'm all for that.

Racer1ab wrote: Soo...the same idiots who can't even be trusted to hold a phone conversation behind the wheel, now have to key up this little app to tattle on other drivers? I can see it now, I pass a member of the anti-destination squad on the right on the highway, they get miffed and try to report me, and end up upside down in the median. I'm all for that.

That would be great, except the family of the Darwin award front-runner who just killed himself in said upside-down maneuver know who "ran him off the road" thanks to the app.

Lawsuit, anybody?

argh.

ReverendDexter wrote: I hate this with a passion. Just because I drive aggressively does NOT mean that I am being unsafe. Sure, it COULD mean that, but the one is not definitive of the other.

Man, do I ever agree.

On my very short drive home, there is a double turn lane. When I get to the beginning of the lane, I move all the way over to the left. Typically the lane is clear and I pass a lot of folks waiting to go straight. Then I downshift, turn left and go on my way.

A couple of months ago I did this, as I do every day. Up the street a bit a crazy woman is inches from my bumper. I keep driving along in a normal maner. I get to a side street and she really is dangerously close to me on a residential street. So I pull over to let her pass.

She does not pass. She rolls down her window and yells at me. She was angry because I passed her in the turn lane. Um. Sorry lady. If you were turning, I dunno, maybe you should have gotten into the turn lane. She tells me that I not only passed her, but I "revved my engine at her". I explained to her that I didn't intentionally do anything wrong and asked if she was calm enough to drive in a safe manner. That made her even more angry. I told her I was sorry if I did anything wrong and asked if she could please go on her way now and let me get home.

Now, she would have been on that phone thing like a fly on E36 M3. But I wasn't wrong. I'm 43 years old and have NEVER been sited for an accident. Only had one accident in my life, when I was 16, and that wasn't my fault. Though today I would be able to avoid it.

In reply to fast_eddie_72:

Sounds like Aunt Flo was in town....

If you read the article, there's a pretty good quote from Nationwide basically saying that while they're all for promoting safe driving, the validity of these reports are very questionable.

I think most insurance companies would agree, besides, no ins. company wants to be in a class-action lawsuit from drivers who are unfairly flagged.

The GPS monitoring that insurance companies are offering to let folks opt-in is a far better alternative. If you're into that kinda thing.

4 Pumpkin Escobar's of fury wrote:

Capt Slow wrote: As I have said before, I am all for ending driver anonymity

please leave

LOL

I think perhaps a little clarification is in order.

In another thread long ago I pondered that simply making peoples license plate number their phone number, people might drive with a little courtesy.

That is all... no overarching government mandated insurance company profitizable techno shi-lution...

more importantly, they should take all the people who SUBMIT reports, and send their information to the state police, since that is evidence that they were TEXTING while driving (or something similar), which is....illegal in most states now.

I see no problem with it except for the part where it goes into any kind of govt. or insurance database and has any impact whatsoever on the driver.

This phone app requires TEXTING? Hmmmm I do see a problem there.

But on the other hand I do like being able to report other idiots on the road. Right now I call 911. Seems to work pretty well.

If I get to impact someone else's insurance rates I'm definitely following all the people I don't like and sending in bogus reports TAKE THAT!

I think we should all get vanity plates that say "1010101" or "0101010." We can make them unique by randomly substituting the letter "O" for the number zero or a capital "I" for the number one. Then if someone verbally calls out "One-oh-one-oh-one-oh-one" into the app described, he or she has pretty good chance of getting a licehnse plate number that doesn't exist or is for a car that is even close to being in the vacinity.

This will motivate me to keep my speed differential with other vehicles great enough that they do not have time to see my licence plate as anything other than a blur.

Type Q wrote: I think we should all get vanity plates that say "1010101" or "0101010." We can make them unique by randomly substituting the letter "O" for the number zero or a capital "I" for the number one. Then if someone verbally calls out "One-oh-one-oh-one-oh-one" into the app described, he or she has pretty good chance of getting a licehnse plate number that doesn't exist or is for a car that is even close to being in the vacinity.

Shaun wrote: This will motivate me to keep my speed differential with other vehicles great enough that they do not have time to see my licence plate as anything other than a blur.

Ah! Got it. I'll go with ZO0OM. Or Z00OM. Or something like that.

fast eddie 72 wrote: Man, do I ever agree. Snip<

I call them psycompeditive-drivers.

I have been exposed to many cases of this.

I would have turned on my video recorder on my phone and then been nice to them (as you were). Then send copy of said video to the authorities with YM&M and a plate # with date time and location to the local police and the local network news outlets making sure that you include a CC line so everyone knows who was copied.

The stories I could tell about incidents with drivers like this. Some are funny others not so much. I actually feel sorry for people like this. I don't understand how people can let driving get to them so much.

The funnies was the girl that got arrested and it all started with her yelling at me for driving at the speed limit.

Or the other one that wanted to force me to take a right on red. She actually got out and came up to my window and started yelling at me to take the turn on red or else. There was a red aero and a no turn on red sign. I tried to point them out to her. She went back to here car proceeded to and pushed me. She spun me 180 into the guard rail on my right giving her room so she could drive around me through the intersection (with her 750il) with a state cop on the corner. Hilarity ensued from there as the cop had seen the whole thing.

dean1484 wrote: Or the other one that wanted to force me to take a right on red. She actually got out and came up to my window and started yelling at me to take the turn on red or else. There was a red aero and a no turn on red sign. I tried to point them out to her. She went back to here car proceeded to and pushed me. She spun me 180 into the guard rail on my right giving her room so she could drive around me through the intersection (with her 750il) with a state cop on the corner. Hilarity ensued from there as the cop had seen the whole thing.

I looked at you profile (Maynard MA) and my first thought was, "They call them Ma$$holes for a reason." I lived near Boston for a year. Its the only place I was bumped by another driver who didn't think I was moving fast enough.

We have met the enemy and he is us.

Inconsistency is the problem. I don't think governments will like it when traffic enforcement gets crowdsourced to people who can't interpret the news correctly. I can also foresee any popular person or whomever being a target of vigilante justice. Imagine that "Annonymous" bunch, except with your car information and orders to submit certain details carefully.

There's a lot of bad ideas behind this, and the insurance companies can think of them faster than I can.