irish44j
irish44j Dork
10/10/11 9:12 p.m.

over the winter will be looking for some cheap/used race (and/or street/sport) seats for the rallycross beater. The OEM 1985 "BMW comfort" seats ain't gonna cut it!.

What I'm looking for: a seat that will be comfortable for a couple hours of driving to events, and reasonably supportive since it's gonna be bumpy!

I basically have two thoughts, neither of which include buying new $$ race/sport seats!

  1. find an OEM seat that will fit and will provide sufficient bolstering for rallycross (especialy if I use a harness). Porsche 911/944 seats and Miata seats come to mind offhand.

  2. find some race seats that have expired FIA certification, and would hopefully not be too expensive as they'd surely have alot of use/wear/sweat on them. Anyone know where a good place to find where racers get rid of their non-certified seats?

ANy other suggestions welcome.

btw, this will be going in an e30 bmw.

irish44j
irish44j Dork
10/10/11 9:15 p.m.

oh, and I would probably prefer a reclinable "sport" seat over a full-on competition seat, but am open to ideas...

PhilStubbs
PhilStubbs New Reader
10/10/11 9:18 p.m.

As an owner of an 07 civic SI sedan, I say check around for some of those seats. I did a 10 hour trip from FL to VA and then an 18 hour trip back going through Asheville NC and was comfortable the whole time. They also hold you in place pretty nicely for an oem seat

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/10/11 9:28 p.m.

I've had a bunch of 911 seats. They're made by Recaro, they're incredibly comfortable and the mounts are so simple that they'd be easy to adapt to something else. I was advertising a pair on the Jeep forum for a while because I thought they would be perfect in a Wrangler, but I eventually sold them on Pelican for $200.

On the downside they're pretty heavy. I have a pair of keepers in my basement and I could weigh one if you'd like me to.

You can usually find them in the For Sale section on Pelican.

pigeon
pigeon Dork
10/10/11 10:12 p.m.

Did Javelin ever sell the 944 sport seats he had?

irish44j
irish44j Dork
10/10/11 10:20 p.m.

There are a pair of 944 leather seats on the local CL for $200 in good shape....how do they compare to the 911 seats? I don't really want leather (at all), but could always have them recovered or somethign....

Pelican = pelicanparts? Didn't knwo there was a forum there.

@ phil - same with my 09 wrx seats - very comfy and pretty supportive....but of course trying to keep price low the Civic Si seats are in pretty high demand for the import tuner scene (as are wrx seats) so those are probably out for me.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/10/11 10:25 p.m.

944 seats may be the same as 911 seats. 924S seats are similar, but with smaller bolsters and most likely are vinyl.

Look here:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/search.php?searchid=7375041

ProDarwin
ProDarwin Dork
10/11/11 7:51 a.m.

What's wrong with the BMW seats? From my experience rallycrossing - you don't generate much force trying to pull you out of your seat. Both times I did it, the OEM seat/belt setup was fine (Saturn and Subaru Outback).

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
10/11/11 12:21 p.m.

How much you get thrown around really depends on your course. The course on which I race is really rough.

bludroptop
bludroptop SuperDork
10/11/11 12:44 p.m.

Troll Craigslist. "Tuner" seats seem to pop up all of the time for not much money. Name brand fixed-back seats less often and for more $$ but bargains are out there if you bide your time and are willing to deal with some fading or odd colors. I paid $150 for a near perfect Sparco and $75 for one with some minor wear issues.

moxnix
moxnix Reader
10/11/11 12:47 p.m.

Local RallyX has 3 different basic courses that they can use.

  1. The big course.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJzObOXlNDs
  2. The gravel course.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqGEOPzVhWQ
  3. The barn course.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9m_i8CfANo

All seem fairly rough to me but I don't have much problem with the stock RX-7 seats out there.

mtn
mtn SuperDork
10/11/11 2:10 p.m.

Miata seats are horrible. FYI.

irish44j
irish44j Dork
10/11/11 4:55 p.m.
ProDarwin wrote: What's wrong with the BMW seats? From my experience rallycrossing - you don't generate much force trying to pull you out of your seat. Both times I did it, the OEM seat/belt setup was fine (Saturn and Subaru Outback).

google early e30 "comfort seats" and you'll see what's wrong.

aside from the halfway-functional tilt mechanism.....they have less lateral suport than the ones in my wife's 4runner, haha....

and they're ripped, ugly tan vinyl.

irish44j
irish44j Dork
10/11/11 4:56 p.m.
mtn wrote: Miata seats are horrible. FYI.

interesting, I have a set in my GT6 and though not as good as my WRX stockers, they're a major step up from the slidey stock Triupmh ones!

They don't quite fit me right, but that could be because the bottom cushions are shaved a couple inches.

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