The Goodwood Revival 2011 is just now coming on Speed. 1200 et
I love the fact that Goodwood isn't just a parade of delicately restored old cars. They actually race hard.
mguar wrote: I don't know where you get the idea that Vintage racers parade?
But he said,
I love the fact that Goodwood isn't just a parade of delicately restored old cars. They actually race hard.
Apparently it doesn't come back on anytime soon as a search didn't turn it up again. Could it have been on a different titled show?
Every time I look at this video, it motivates me to go out to the garage and work on my racing A35.
I remember going to the first vintage races at Road America and yes, they were parades. This was probably the very early 80s. Didn't last long however, as I remember the following years were races.
Well, I certainly didn't say you weren't going fast and I apologize for the parade comment. From a spectator perspective, it seemed 'reserved', compared to what always ran there, ie, June Sprints, IMSA, SCCA Nationals, etc, and what spectators are used to. All the cars, regardless of age, were prepared to the 9s for the day, not the period they were from, which is the key difference, from a spectator perspective.
I know you raced hard but I remember thinking, wow, this is really different and really cool!
Folks,
It seems like every Vintage racing group has their own take on "Raciness".
At Elkhart (been multiple times) and Monterey pretty much every class had the top 3 to 5 guys FIGHTING for the next position. (But cleanly).
When I questioned a coworker and Rocky Mountain VR about the parades that they conducted, his comments: "Grid position determines finishing position unless a competitor waves you by. And "THE CARS ARE THE STARS". Never bothered to attend another of their events....
Rog
Yeah, I agree that different groups in vintage may have different degrees of "Raciness" (there's a new word!). And in my view, some of pre-war cars look like they're dogging it when, in reality, they they're balls-to-the-wall. You can only do so much with 50 HP and skinny, 19" wire wheels.
My ~ 75 HP Spridget sure can't do any great smokey burnouts either....it's all about momentum. Which can look "slow" to the uninitiated, no matter how hard you're trying. Believe me, when I'm in a dense pack of very similar Spridgets (+Spits, Minis, etc) heading down the main straight at something like 96 mph, we are all trying our @ss off to get to T1 first.
When I'm racing with some of my Spridget peers in VRG, no one gives me a pass and I don't exactly hand them out either. There's no pre-ordained finishing order. We all race hard but clean.
Here's a sample Watch the blue Sprite around 1:50.....I'm at about 6K in fourth and trying for sure. (trying not to hit him).
emodspitfire wrote: When I questioned a coworker and Rocky Mountain VR about the parades that they conducted, his comments: "Grid position determines finishing position unless a competitor waves you by. And "THE CARS ARE THE STARS".
I don't think your coworker is correct. I've had some hard racing with a few guys from RMVR (though not in Colorado) and that's not my understanding of what they do.
I've raced in vintage with a Spridget for about ten years in several venues with a number of different clubs (and been in a couple of wrecks). I've yet to feel like I've been in a parade. Most of my races look like the video that aeronca65t posted, though I HATE when they put forumla cars (usually FV's) in with the production cars.
I've got several of the Goodwood Revival DVD's and was lucky enough to attend a few years ago. Some of the most exciting races I've ever watched.
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