m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/11/10 10:17 a.m.

http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/1624667476.html


'85 Maserati Biturbo (twin turbo intercooled) with 37K miles, titled, needing minor restoration (wiring, exhaust, seat covers, one turbo rebuilt) for $2,500.

'72 Lotus Europa racecar, not street legal (bill of sale only) rebuilt RARE twin-cam BIG VALVE enging with dual WEBER head, rebuilt and powder-coated trans, frame redone, most fiberglass done, new windshield, most parts to finish. Dynoed engine according to previous owner. Minilites, fender flares, built-in roll bar, and will make awesome track car when done. $5,000

'77 Matra Bagheera S -- 3-seat mid engine sportscar, titled, likely only RHD Matra here in the US, Hodec conversion from England and still has its English license plate on the front. small crack in corner of windshield, 4-speed SIMCA engine, Campagnelo wheels, sunroof, GT unibody fiberglass bonded to metal, needs interior freshening and tires, awesome performance. $5,000

Might trade for backhoe with trailer, 4x4ATV, Harley, or combination cash and partial trade. Don't need a job, so don't ask....


All 3 are cars that I must own before I get old (like 40 or something)

integraguy
integraguy HalfDork
3/11/10 10:47 a.m.

A couple of thoughts:

I never figured a city like Cleveland as having an undiscovered treasure trove of cars....

As someone NORTH of 40, I'm not sure what you'd call me (LOL)....ancient?

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
3/11/10 10:52 a.m.

"Dynoed engine according to previous owner"

I'm pretty sure he isn't sure what "Dynoed" means unless he was also going to include other useful facts like "Driven according to previous owner" and "Seen parked by several witnesses".

Cool list though :)

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/11/10 11:06 a.m.

Interesting approach to the roll bar on that Europa.

Cleveland Rocks.

jrw1621
jrw1621 Dork
3/11/10 11:09 a.m.

Interesting. Not too far from me either.

I never see a BiTurbo running with more than 50k miles on (if you ever see one running.) I highly recommend against one and will provide no help to someone who thinks they need one.

I could look at the Europa but with most any Europa shopping, assume that it needs everything (including frame and bodywork.)

I know nothing of the last.

914Driver
914Driver SuperDork
3/11/10 12:01 p.m.
jrw1621 wrote: Interesting. I know nothing of the last.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matra_Bagheera

Eb4Prez
Eb4Prez New Reader
3/11/10 4:12 p.m.

In reply to integraguy:

At 45 I consider myself "vintage"!

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/12/10 9:13 a.m.

I am pushing 40... as far away from me as I can... but I fear it is winning

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/12/10 9:30 a.m.
mad_machine wrote: I am pushing 40... as far away from me as I can... but I fear it is winning

October 13th for the race to end for me.

WilD
WilD Reader
3/12/10 10:10 a.m.

For Sale: Trouble, and lots of it. Welcome to hell.

I don't speak from experience, but have heard enough rumours and the details are scary enough, that I felt uneasy just reading the ad.

kb58
kb58 Reader
3/12/10 10:22 a.m.

I remember seeing a Biturbo on the old TV show Miami Vice, shown as the pinnacle of what bad guys ride in. Guess they wised up, or walked.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson HalfDork
3/12/10 10:42 a.m.

The owner of those cars simply must be on here. I mean who else but a GRM reader would be such a masochist as to actualy own a Lotus, a Biturbo and a Matra!! Come out come out where ever you are!

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/12/10 10:52 a.m.
WilD wrote: For Sale: Trouble, and lots of it. Welcome to hell. I don't speak from experience, but have heard enough rumours and the details are scary enough, that I felt uneasy just reading the ad.

But you know... rumors are just those.

I've had Yugo, X1/9, XR4ti, & Alfa w/out much trouble at all.

I'm sure I'll find something to break me one day, I really want to won each of these cars in that post (especially the Matra and Biturbo)

Raze
Raze HalfDork
3/12/10 11:13 a.m.

m4ff3w, you and I must have been separated at birth, I own an XR4Ti, I'm trying to buy an X1/9 this weekend and I've been looking at Alfas the last 6 months. The Yugo sadly is and I believe never will be on my list...

racerdave600
racerdave600 Reader
3/12/10 11:16 a.m.

All of those cars depend on the previous owners and maintenance. My experience with Alfas, Fiats, Porsches, etc. is that previous and current maintenance is key. If you do it, you should be ok. If not, break out the wallet and prepare for drainage!

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