High Revving cars?

I have always been fascinated by small ( e.g. 4 and 6 cylinder) high revving engines. I love the thought of using an engine to its full potential vs a massive v8 or v10 revving too 6300.

What production cars rev over 8500 or even over 9000? So far on my list Honda s600, s2000, BMW e46 m3? Thoughts?

MR2 with a 4age revs to about 7.5k, IIRC. Thats the highest revving car I've had...

rx8 e30 m3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redline

 * BMW E90 M3 V8 8400 rpm
    * BMW E60 M5 V10 8250 rpm
   * Ferrari F355 V8 8500 rpm
* Ferrari F50 V12 8500 rpm
* Ferrari 360 V8 8500 rpm
* Ferrari F430 V8 8500 rpm
* Ferrari 458 Italia V8 9000 rpm
* Honda NSX V6 8000 rpm
 * Honda S2000 I4 8800 rpm (2.0L) (rev limiter 9000 rpm)
* Honda S2000 I4 8000 rpm (2.2L) (rev limiter 8200 rpm)
* Lamborghini Gallardo V10 8100 rpm
* Lamborghini Gallardo V10 LP560-4 8500 rpm
* Lexus LFA V10 9000 rpm (rev limter 9500 rpm)
* Lotus Elise I4 8000 rpm (rev limiter 8500 rpm)
    * Porsche Carrera GT V10 8400 rpm

I saw that list on wikipedia. They mention mostly supercars.

Swift GT(i). They were US limited to 7500, BUT a quick chip swap allows it to rev to 8500+ like all the cars overseas. Stock motor (intake/exhaust) will run out of air about 8800.

1) Bike powered locost.

2) Any poor car that has done the dreaded 3-2 'upshift'

B16A engines can do that, IIRC. One of the B-series Honda motors.

7,500 rpm for my '88 MR2 SC

titanium beehives and the right cam set, and internals blah blah blah, you can get 10k out of a 4g63.

Acura Integra GS-R, B18, 8200

Ford Probe/Mazda MX6, KL V6, 7500+

4age blacktop 20v, 8000+rpms.
2000 Celica GTS, 8000+rpms.

Pretty easy to get the 3sgte in the Mr2 Turbo or Celica AllTrac to over 8000.

rsx-s was 8100 02-04, then 8300 05-06 civic Si has a similar/same motor after that.

the K20a2 had the same valvetrain as the s2000, and was good to around 9000, the bottom end was good to 9500ish, but unless you upgraded cams/intake/exhaust it wasn't worth much past 8500.

still kinda wish i had kept my 04 and turned it into an all-motor screamer, but oh well

b16 a2 in the 99-00 civic si:

Redline...8000 rpm Rev Limit...8450 rpm

I think they a great little powerplants. I had the pleasure to drive a bone stock si with one a fair amount and it was silky, willing, and sang a sweet song.

Being able to breathe at high rpm is in no way specific to small engines...

Take any small displacement high revving motor and make a bigger engine the same way, and the big engine will have the same powerband.

No discussion of high-revving engines can leave out the immaculate Mazda rotary. While most (if not all) reciprocating piston designs feel like they're going to come apart at high revs, the rotary seems to thrive near redline, delivering power with a sweet, sweet smoothness utterly unmatched in any other engine.

You pistonheads truly have your hands on your wankers, while utilizing a reciprocating action. It's time you woke up and smelled the exhaust of a Mazda rotary. Nothing else can compare.

7th gen Celica GTS, Matrix & corolla XRS with the 2zz-ge. Any RX-7 or rotary car

In reply to 1988RedT2:I agree

mndsm wrote: titanium beehives and the right cam set, and internals blah blah blah, you can get 10k out of a 4g63.

Well, if we're going non-stock, Suzuki Sport Valve springs, cultus cams, intake and Suzuki Sport ECU saw 10,500 rpm rev cut on the G13B IIRC.

1988RedT2 wrote: No discussion of high-revving engines can leave out the immaculate Mazda rotary. While most (if not all) reciprocating piston designs feel like they're going to come apart at high revs, the rotary seems to thrive near redline, delivering power with a sweet, sweet smoothness utterly unmatched in any other engine. You pistonheads truly have your hands on your wankers, while utilizing a reciprocating action. It's time you woke up and smelled the exhaust of a Mazda rotary. Nothing else can compare.

as long as you don't mind no torque, high oil consumption and the NEED to spin it high.....

My first gen with an RX-8 rotating assembly routinely sees 8k+. Probably close to 9k at the autocross yesterday and still pulling. On the dyno I think it peaked around or right under 8000.

Stock it redlined at 7k.

High oil consumption is a relative term. What do you consider high oil consumption?

A rotary is designed to burn oil much like a 2 cycle engine. While they aren't the same if you treat them the same you'll never be unhappy with a rotary.

The issue becomes one of how often do you check/change your oil? If you are a gearhead then you do it more often than you need to and you'll never have an issue. On the other hand if you're granny and check it once a decade then issues can develop.

The whole time I had my rotaries I never had a rotary use more oil than an older boinger. As a matter of fact I had boingers that used more oil than any of my rotaries.

And as far as needing to use high revs, well that's true of all high revvers. You can design an engine to be a torquer or a revver, but not both. I'd rather have a high revver as it gives me much finer control. Hence my dissatisfaction with my Miatae and my love of the RX7s and the S2000.

Bobzilla wrote:

1988RedT2 wrote: No discussion of high-revving engines can leave out the immaculate Mazda rotary. While most (if not all) reciprocating piston designs feel like they're going to come apart at high revs, the rotary seems to thrive near redline, delivering power with a sweet, sweet smoothness utterly unmatched in any other engine. You pistonheads truly have your hands on your wankers, while utilizing a reciprocating action. It's time you woke up and smelled the exhaust of a Mazda rotary. Nothing else can compare.

as long as you don't mind no torque, high oil consumption and the NEED to spin it high.....

See your post before this one.

93celicaGT2 wrote:

Bobzilla wrote:

1988RedT2 wrote: No discussion of high-revving engines can leave out the immaculate Mazda rotary. While most (if not all) reciprocating piston designs feel like they're going to come apart at high revs, the rotary seems to thrive near redline, delivering power with a sweet, sweet smoothness utterly unmatched in any other engine. You pistonheads truly have your hands on your wankers, while utilizing a reciprocating action. It's time you woke up and smelled the exhaust of a Mazda rotary. Nothing else can compare.

as long as you don't mind no torque, high oil consumption and the NEED to spin it high.....

See your post before this one.

Swift uses NO oil between changes, makes decent torque for it's displacement (1298cc) and while you don't need to spin it high.... it really loves to.

Bobzilla wrote:

93celicaGT2 wrote:

Bobzilla wrote:

1988RedT2 wrote: No discussion of high-revving engines can leave out the immaculate Mazda rotary. While most (if not all) reciprocating piston designs feel like they're going to come apart at high revs, the rotary seems to thrive near redline, delivering power with a sweet, sweet smoothness utterly unmatched in any other engine. You pistonheads truly have your hands on your wankers, while utilizing a reciprocating action. It's time you woke up and smelled the exhaust of a Mazda rotary. Nothing else can compare.

as long as you don't mind no torque, high oil consumption and the NEED to spin it high.....

See your post before this one.

Swift uses NO oil between changes, makes decent torque for it's displacement (1298cc) and while you don't need to spin it high.... it really loves to.

Besides the oil aspect, same as a rotary.

If you're too lazy to check your oil occasionally, then don't buy a rotary. It's that simple.