TeamEvil
TeamEvil Reader
10/16/12 1:29 p.m.

Stumped again ! ! ! ! !

Been looking for a decent used Holley four barrel carb to use on my Ford 5.0 backed up against an AOD automatic trans. None of the Holleys seem to work with the AOD kick down linkage. They all list being compatible with the basic Fort AT kick down yet every one has a caveat about not working with the AOD . . .

Anyone come up against this and found a solution?

Anyone have a recommendation for another four barrel? (Like there IS any other except the Edelbrock.)

Anyone successfully run an Edelbrock with the Ford AOD trans?

I really want the kick down to be functional and have heard that if it isn't and the cable running back to the trans pressure set-up isn't operational as well, that the trans will fry.

Kinda skittish about this and want to make sure that things are working "as stock," you know?

Any help at all, GREATLY appreciated as always ! !

T

stuart in mn
stuart in mn PowerDork
10/16/12 1:45 p.m.

After a quick online search it appears most people solve this issue with a cable kit from Lokar. Here are a couple responses:
http://www.shockley.net/Holley-AOD.asp
http://bzerob2.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/hooking-a-holley-carburetor-to-a-ford-aod-transmission/

TeamEvil
TeamEvil Reader
10/16/12 3:24 p.m.

Terrific information ! ! !

Thanks,

T

Wondering if the Edelbrock might not be the better choice, gotta check everything out WAY more thoroughly that I thought.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
10/16/12 3:44 p.m.

Those little plastic TV cable doohickeys fail when they get old and brittle. They put a LOT of groceries in my cabinets back in my transmission shop daze.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/16/12 4:57 p.m.
Curmudgeon wrote: Those little plastic TV cable doohickeys fail when they get old and brittle. They put a LOT of groceries in my cabinets back in my transmission shop daze.

They only list out at a couple bucks.

IF you catch 'em before they fall apart.

Quick Lube never checks 'em, and trans shops don't see 'em until after it's too late.

TeamEvil
TeamEvil Reader
10/16/12 5:07 p.m.

"They only list out at a couple bucks."

Where are they listed and what are they really called?

I Googled "Ford AOD doohickey" and got WAY too many hits to sort through ! ! !

Thanks,

T

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
10/16/12 6:57 p.m.

May be listed under thingamajig

novaderrik
novaderrik UltraDork
10/16/12 7:30 p.m.

how did Ford do it on the carbed 5.0 Mustangs from 84-early 86?

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/16/12 7:54 p.m.
novaderrik wrote: how did Ford do it on the carbed 5.0 Mustangs from 84-early 86?

Were they using the AOD or did they use the C3 or were they manual-only?

IIRC, they may have been Holley 4-barrels but they weren't 4150/4160 style. Weird mono-casting style carb. Again IIRC, it was the "New Design" that Holley was trying to replace the 4150/4160 with, having such features as no gaskets below the fuel level. Didn't take off

The "doohickey" that I was talking about was the little plastic grommet that held the end of the cable into the lever on the throttle body. When that grommet failed, the cable fell out, and then the TV cable defaulted to idle position. The TV cable is more than just kickdown, it also determines things like line pressure. Burn up a trans before you cross town if the cable falls out.

novaderrik
novaderrik UltraDork
10/16/12 8:13 p.m.

the 5.0 had what was a pretty average Holley 4160 carb on it.. it had the same fuel bowls and everything, but was set up to run leaner for emissions. they might have been 5 speed only, but they were just 4160's..

edit: teh google tells me it was a 4180 carb..

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
10/16/12 8:19 p.m.

Here's the little bastige:

It pops into the carb or throttle body arm, then there's a stud on the end of the cable that snaps into it. There's no clip etc. The bushing gets brittle and crumbles, the TV cable comes off and falls back to the lowest setting, the line pressure drops and whoosh deep fried clutch pack.

Nitroracer
Nitroracer SuperDork
10/16/12 9:45 p.m.

If you have an AOD transmission upgrade that bushing to a brass one that won't disintegrate.

http://www.lincolnsonline.com/tech/00052.html

TeamEvil
TeamEvil Reader
10/17/12 12:12 p.m.

Thanks SO much for this info ! !

You guys are just AMAZING ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Would this then be the carb to buy in order to avoid the problems with the other Holleys?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Holley-0-1850s-Shiny-4160-600-CFM-4-bbl-Vacuum-Secondaries-Manual-Choke-/230826034745?hash=item35be4dc639&item=230826034745&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

The numbers seem to match up with what you all have been suggesting.

Thanks-

T

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