I'm gonna' call BS on the navigation. In fact, I think that with enough time (when it is outdated), it will be beneficial not to have it. If I bought a car that expensive, I would vinyl wrap it for future preservation.
Edit: I can see what the salesman is saying about color fads but I think he might be over thinking it a bit.
Can I live vicariously through you if you are seriously prepping to special order an R8
I wouldn't worry too much about it. His experience selling them as a dealer is likely different than you would have selling it as a private party later. The joy you get from having a car that is just the way you want it is better than the potential for a few extra dollars in a couple of years. You're not buying the car for the next guy, you're buying it for you.
Color can definitely make a huge difference. My dad pretty much exclusively buys new cars in red. He sold used cars for 30 years. He may not know a lot about a lot of things, but he knows a lot about buying and selling cars.
That said, if I'm spending more on a car than I did on my house, you'd better believe it's going to be whatever berkeleying color I want it to be.
The R8's are one of the cars that the options are the profit on them.....tell them to bugger off.
Following that logic of the salesman, an auto transmission car will always re-sell quicker.
The R8 has been around long enough, there had to be some previous less popular colors. Is there a big difference in used asking prices for odd colors? Could it be that the odd color brings even more money if everyone follows the safe route.
If I were buying a used Lotus Elise, I would be drawn to the more wild colors.
I am a car dealer. The Audi dealer is right & gave you good advice.
Interesting - in the Porsche 911 world (air-cooled) the rare colors are almost always worth significantly more.
I can see the dealer being right. As the cars are still new, people looking for a used one will have more to choose from. After ten years (like the 993) the more rare colours will be sought after
Agreed. You want one in an iconic color. To get an idea of what's going to sell, look in the catalog and the magazines to see what Audi's pushing. That's what you're going to sell in 10 years.
I bought a Jazz Blue Golf in 1999.5. It was the catalog color and had to be special ordered. Rare enough that the VW nerds at the Vortex didn't believe it existed. But it sold in large part because of the color 10 years later, even though most of the market was boring adult colors.
Imagine a world without green Stratoseseses.
I can't imagine color (unless its a really bad one like the sky blue ones)
Sometimes you're the berkeleying freak who likes baby blue. Sometimes you're the berkeleying freak who likes bright orange. Dig?
The only reason they say it has higher resale is that they see the common colors come through the auction system. If I want a orange manual R8 I am darn well buying it used PP.
I understand your concern but isn't buying a new car one of the worst investment ideas? If I was personally in your situation I would care less about the next Hanz Audi buying it and more so about what I want and what will make me happy. Just my 2 pesos.
wearymicrobe wrote: The only reason they say it has higher resale is that they see the common colors come through the auction system. If I want a orange manual R8 I am darn well buying it used PP.
good point.. everyone loves Black.. so everyone buys black
how about a picture of the orange one?
GM and Honda have had similar oranges (GTO, Fit, Civic Si) in the past and seems like people love those colors.
Same question from 6 months ago, found while seeking photo above.
http://www.r8talk.com/forums/5-general-discussion/11227-samoa-orange-worst-color-resale-value.html
In reply to poopshovel:
My first car was a very light blue '64 Plymouth. I'd rock that car in that color again every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
DirtyBird222 wrote: I understand your concern but isn't buying a new car one of the worst investment ideas? If I was personally in your situation I would care less about the next Hanz Audi buying it and more so about what I want and what will make me happy. Just my 2 pesos.
Supercars don't follow normal rules. But I agree - buy the car you want, you won't regret it as long as you own the car.
In reply to Datsun1500:
I'd think exotics would be immune to color trends. They're exotics, so they're supposed to be outrageous. Plus, I don't think orange is over-the-top or tacky--see Porsche 911's over the years.
Then again, I don't own an exotic and likely never will. I own a Civic in an outrageous factory color (Electron Blue Pearl), but that doesn't really count.
I just see that orange as a way to stand out......at least it isn't the hideous chrome painted.....
Datsun1500 wrote:wearymicrobe wrote: The only reason they say it has higher resale is that they see the common colors come through the auction system. If I want a orange manual R8 I am darn well buying it used PP.I'm having a hard time finding a new manual, orange, coupe. So far there's one in the country, that just popped up last week. Trying to find a used orange one is impossible (there were 10 or so made over the years) I know you and I discussed the used values offline awhile ago and how they have not dropped to where we thought they would. At this point a new one might make sense, especially if I get it how I want it.
Yeah they just refuse to drop, though I have seen a few early v8 manual cars that could be a decent buys.
Personally and I really mean this I would try and find a leftover 12 in a manual v10. Last time I went out and looked at them I was offer 25K in trunk money.
Still not enough to put me over the edge though, Gallardo are getting extremely cheap as well with some miles now. Cheaper then the R8 but not as pretty.
Mmadness wrote: I'm gonna' call BS on the navigation. In fact, I think that with enough time (when it is outdated), it will be beneficial not to have it. If I bought a car that expensive, I would vinyl wrap it for future preservation.
Agreed - 10 years down the road, anyone shopping for a used exotic is going to be using a smartphone for navigation, and the built in navigation will have maps that are years out of date and no way to update it.
gamby wrote: In reply to Datsun1500: I'd think exotics would be immune to color trends. They're exotics, so they're supposed to be outrageous....
I'm not sure if they are immune to color trends - but they probably work in the opposite way of color trends on an appliance car. A Camry would get dinged for resale value for being painted an obnoxious, over the top color, while an exotic is likely to get dinged for not being an obnoxious, over the top color. Although I suspect basic black and silver would be good colors for an R8, could you imagine trying to sell an R8 painted light beige?
I think it depends on when you are going to sell it. If its a toy that you are going to get rid of within 3-4 years, yeah, I'd go for a common color for easy resell.
Ten years down the road, who knows, but it does seem the off-the-wall colors become more desirable. From a cheap car standpoint, Nitro Yellow Green on the early Neons was a pretty wild color, and I doubt most appliance buyers wanted it in a 2-3 year old used car. Now, they command a higher price than an equivalent model in a different color.
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