How much does a bad repaint hurt value on a s2000? A shop painted my Sons car as a "favor"

i think he is worried about it coming through insurance as it will hit the value of the car when somebody does a carfax or the like

Flight Service wrote:

Datsun1500 wrote: A few quick answers: It's coming through the Attorney, they are not talking to me. I don't want it to go through his insurance, it will count as a claim. No such thing as verbal authorization in Maryland, it has to be written down, if it's over the phone the shop needs to have it documented

I am not sure why you are concerned with it hitting the shops insurance, he went from stand up guy to "berkeley you, berkeley your kid, berkeley your kids dream car, and berkeley the next three generations of your family. I will make Hennessey of Woodstock look good" in about 3 days. Either way, continued good luck.

I think he meant the car owner's insurance. In any case, I hope y'all have a satisfying end to this.

mad_machine wrote: i think he is worried about it coming through insurance as it will hit the value of the car when somebody does a carfax or the like

A lot of times a commercial claim won't show up on carfax. I'm not sure why. When my 944t was totalled the claim went through the company of the semi that hit me. No carfax entry on it. I bought the car back, then fixed it and sold it, but still disclosed the accident and how bad it was to the new buyer.

Datsun1500 wrote: No such thing as verbal authorization in Maryland, it has to be written down, if it's over the phone the shop needs to have it documented

In case you haven't noticed, these folk haven't exactly been keen on being honest or legal.

In reply to Flight Service:

I think we all think something different about the insurance.

I THINK he meant he didn't want it hitting HIS SON'S insurance. I don't think he was talking about the shop at all.

You need to legally go after everyone how touched the car, whether you think they are responsible or not. The courts will sort it out. You don't want the blame to get shifted around, and have the courts find someone responsible that is not in the lawsuit. Good luck.

Datsun1500 wrote: The theory is let those 2 insurance companies fight each other and get both shops to turn on each other. Works for me.

Interesting theory, since that results in a long time with neither of them paying you. As long as there is fighting, you aren't getting paid. You will only get paid when the fighting is over.

Unfortunately that's how it works and is much cheaper than the next step, which involves a judge.

I'd be going public with the shop name. I'd start spreading the word like manure.

During all of this, does the shop still have your car?

Wouldn't a couple of estimates accomplish the same thing without taking a bunch of cash out of your pocket??

Datsun1500 wrote: Update time: The insurance company completed the investigation and gave the results to the shop owner. I have not seen those results, but... The 2004 S2000 was replaced with a 2005 Black S2000 with 19K original miles, that is as close to a new car as you can get. They get the 2004 and keep my $2000. My Son will not be removing the emblems from this car, or he owes me the $2000 back, that's the deal.

seems fair, without being punitive. Are you happy with the results?

Agree, seems fair and is probably the best outcome out of a bunch of not overly happy ones.

That doesn't sound comforting. You're still out 2 grand that you didn't agree to pay. What if you didn't have it to spend? Would the court still require that you pay them 2 grand?

At this point in the proceedings, I'd say that's comforting enough.

I thought you started with a 2005.

Either way I think the outcome is quite fair.

tuna55 wrote: That doesn't sound comforting. You're still out 2 grand that you didn't agree to pay. What if you didn't have it to spend? Would the court still require that you pay them 2 grand?

He could win in court, but it will take 2+ years for this to be completed. Time or Money.. Your choice.

Additionally, this escapade is a $2K lesson to his son. Which will be priceless in the long run.

After all the fuster cluck that prolly isn't that bad of a resolution. At least it's over. Live n learn. Good luck w/ replacement car.

Sounds like he came out pretty well. A year newer and 70k fewer miles will probably be worth 2k or more when it comes time to sell.

Congrats it is over.

Any gag order on what really happened or do they refuse to admit to any fault?

Great to hear, and really can't believe, that this one turned out well. Good for you ! Better for your son ! !

Good good, I will say this, $2000 for 70k miles is in an insane upsell, that is usually around the $3500 to $5k price difference.

Seems to be a remarkably reasonable and simple solution that allows you all to move on mostly happy from a bad situation. I suspect a large portion of society would mistakenly label it a rip off and unfair since you had to pay even a dime for a loss you shouldn't have incurred, and insist that you continue on to squeeze every last cent out of the shop, the paint shop and the insurance company, regardless of your time, aggravation and attorney fees that it would cost you in the process.

Bravo for level headed-ness!

I'd pay 2k for that kind of upgrade any day. I'd call this a win all said and done.