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flyin_viata
flyin_viata GRM+ Memberand New Reader
2/10/25 7:29 a.m.

In October last year, my wife got a new 2024 Toyota Sienna to replace her old, 150k mile 2015 Sienna...but she didn't want to trade or sell the old van.  Instead, having seen photos I took of the HART Alabama Hotrodessey at Road Atlanta in June 2023 and the TRD Sienna R-Tuned, she said she wanted to convert her old Sienna into a track van.

With a teenager who will soon get their permit, a wife who hasn't done much tracking before and a thought to not get too silly from the jump, I decided to skew closer to the TRD Sienna SE+ that did the 2016 OLOA.  I thought a vehicle that could do HPDE while still being comfortable on the street would be worthwhile if my wife decided HPDE wasn't for her, or decided she liked DE but wanted a more conventional track car.

Ultimately I decided on the following mods:
Silver's NA Neomax coilovers (8k/9k spring rates)
Konig Heliogram 18x9.5 ET25 wheels (stocks were 17x7 ET35)
Conti ECS02 255/40R18 (stocks were 235/60R17)
G-Loc R8 brake pads & Castrol SRF fluid

 

The Winning Formula in Louisville KY did the suspension install, lowering it 30mm from stock, setting the coilovers about 2/3 full soft and aligning it with -2.0 front and -1.1 rear camber.  The wider wheels/tires tuck nicely, though they're 2" shorter than OEM height making the speedo read about 10% high.  Removing the middle row of seats, the van weighed 4300lb (no occupants) on a truck stop CAT scale with a full tank of fuel.


The 9.5 wide wheels and 255s tuck quite nicely after the suspension install, though I would not recommend driving the ECS02 in 3" of snow with track pads installed!  Talk about an exercise in energy management...

I drove it back/forth to work for a few weeks, then yesterday we were able to get it down to NCM for touring laps to shake it down prior to the DE season starting this spring.

Helmet not required for touring laps, but it makes for cool pictures:



After she did her touring laps, I hopped in and wanted to push things a little bit more

My fast lap was a 2:50.5, which I think is fairly decent for touring laps when I've never driven any FWD on track and I'm trying to figure out just how well this thing does or does not stop.  The Sienna R-Tuned used OEM Sienna calipers & rotors with XP12 pads, and the R8s I used were better than I was expecting - I found I was overbraking pretty much everywhere on track.  For a 38F overcast day I was also pleasantly surprised at the ECS02s, I used 32psi to start on track and that seemed okay on such a heavy vehicle and I found I could carry more speed than I was expecting into T5 and T16 sweepers.  I really didn't experience a ton of dive under braking, and while there obviously was body roll the firmer suspension made everything surprisingly compliant.

I did find I need to turn TC off prior to a session as the outside brake grabbed once I started taking turns with more speed, and I also found there is a significant lag in upshift when shifting in manual/sport mode...but the transmission will upshift itself around 6200rpm regardless.  The 2GR-FE didn't complain too much, but I think 5w30 oil may be in its future instead of the standard 0w20 fill.

I've already cleared the van to run with a handful of DE organizations, so we're gonna try to get my wife's first HPDE day scheduled in March or early April.   Outcome of that could be "that was fun but I'm good", "that was fun but get me something smaller and lighter", or "let's strip this thing and put better tires on it", who knows....but that's part of doing the adventure together, right?

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
2/10/25 7:51 a.m.

Swagger wagon!

Listen up motherfathers!

 

 

 

You have my full endorsement!

flyin_viata
flyin_viata GRM+ Memberand New Reader
2/10/25 8:02 a.m.
John Welsh said:

Swagger wagon!

 

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
2/10/25 8:03 a.m.

In reply to flyin_viata :

That's awesome! Crazy, but awesome.   I've often joked how my 2017 Grand Caravan GT is faster and handles better than anything that big and heavy really needs to.  It would be amusing to do similar upgrades to see how far it could be pushed.  If I wasn't already buried in projects.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
2/10/25 8:05 a.m.

Only Vans...fantastic.  I'm gonna need one of those for the Grand Caravan!

ScottyB
ScottyB HalfDork
2/10/25 8:13 a.m.

i'm 100% in on this project, i love it.  Honda Alabama does some racing with their Odyssey and actually hangs pretty well with the field, so that might be some cool inspiration.

As far as the 2GR, not that you need more power before brakes but the more I'm seeing about that engine, the more I'm learning you can make an absolutely stupid amount of N/A power with it once you let it properly breathe, on the stock ECU and basically stock internals.  

thicker oil, a cooler, and maybe a trans cooler might be a good idea.  i imagine with the towing people do with these you could find coolers fairly easily.

pinchvalve (Forum Supporter)
pinchvalve (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
2/10/25 8:53 a.m.

I love the R-Tuned, one of the reasons I bought an SE. I thought your wife was wearing dish gloves at first! 

 

CyberEric
CyberEric SuperDork
2/10/25 9:02 a.m.

Hell yes! I love it!

j_tso
j_tso SuperDork
2/10/25 9:03 a.m.

Be careful, with that it'll be too easy to overpack for HPDEs

Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
2/10/25 9:21 a.m.

That's rad as heck.

johndej
johndej UltraDork
2/10/25 9:26 a.m.
DancesWithCurves
DancesWithCurves New Reader
2/10/25 9:57 a.m.

For years now I've had a weirdo craving for a practical stealthy funbox. I missed out on metallitubby's sported Element, with a mixture of regret and relief. But now that old itch is flaring up again. Bunch of enablers, y'all are.

Next asseto corsa series?

Kreb (Forum Supporter)
Kreb (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
2/10/25 10:34 a.m.

This paves the way for a new thread: "Which vehicle were you most embarrassed to be passed by?". 

sleepyhead the buffalo
sleepyhead the buffalo GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
2/10/25 10:46 a.m.

I wonder where this fits in with SCCA TT classing?

Really "wish" there was a "CSV" to go along with CSM & CSX.

Recon1342
Recon1342 UltraDork
2/10/25 10:54 a.m.

Mini Van, Mega Fun.

 

 

sleepyhead the buffalo
sleepyhead the buffalo GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
2/10/25 10:55 a.m.

Also, in case it wasn't obvious, I'll join the chorus of "hell yes, love it!"

I still wear my OneLap Sienna swag shirt most weeks.

flyin_viata
flyin_viata GRM+ Memberand New Reader
2/10/25 11:27 a.m.
sleepyhead the buffalo said:

I wonder where this fits in with SCCA TT classing?

Really "wish" there was a "CSV" to go along with CSM & CSX.

NASA TT6 with A7s, I think cheeky

Snrub
Snrub Dork
2/10/25 2:39 p.m.

That is very good! Did your wife enjoy it? It's pretty awesome that it was her idea!

Matt B (fs)
Matt B (fs) UltraDork
2/10/25 3:23 p.m.

Yeah I love this. My mom had that same Sienna and it surprised me how much more sporting it was compared to our similar-vintage Oddity. 

Paris Van Gorder
Paris Van Gorder Associate editor
2/10/25 4:13 p.m.

Love this! Your wife is officially one of the coolest women ever in my book.

slefain
slefain UltimaDork
2/10/25 4:16 p.m.

Just needs some sponsor stickers:

 

Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
2/10/25 4:21 p.m.

Sienna also sound pretty mean when the exhaust is uncorked:

 

flyin_viata
flyin_viata GRM+ Memberand New Reader
2/10/25 4:32 p.m.
Snrub said:

That is very good! Did your wife enjoy it? It's pretty awesome that it was her idea!

She had a blast, and is looking forward to her first actual DE.

She keeps asking "Will people think I'm weird driving a minivan?" and I keep telling her "You'll probably have everybody tell you how awesome it is, regardless of how slow you drive."

#alltheswaggerwagons

Snrub
Snrub Dork
2/10/25 4:47 p.m.
Paris Van Gorder said:

Love this! Your wife is officially one of the coolest women ever in my book.

Feature article? :D

P3PPY
P3PPY GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
2/10/25 6:02 p.m.

 

This video is once again very relevant

 

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