MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/17/17 7:21 a.m.

So I am interested in getting into rallycross next year and am looking at cvpi's. 

 

The are cheap and durable and no one runs fwd in the region that I would be running.

I have already found all terrains that fit the panther platform. BFG K02's and general grabber a/t 2's in 215/65/16 are close to stock size.

 

You all are enablers and this is your fault.

Jaynen
Jaynen SuperDork
11/17/17 7:23 a.m.

Don't even know what a CVPI is, ah crown victoria police interceptor.

Its big, its heavy, you will have a hard time navigating a rallycross course and avoiding the bad parts of the course when they get fluffed out because of the cars size. You might have some fun but you won't be competitive at all.

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/17/17 7:37 a.m.

Etrscca runs a really long open course so I think it would be fine size wise.

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/17/17 7:39 a.m.
Jaynen
Jaynen SuperDork
11/17/17 8:48 a.m.

It has to do with the width of the car vs the other competitors. Rallycross course all the loose dirt gets thrown to the outside of the corners and if you touch that stuff it really slows you down its like quicksand and very soft. Its funny that the video you linked is a miata, now imagine a car almost twice the size, and note the darker dirt on the outsides of turns thats the "fluff"

 

I'm not trying to dissuade you from some cheap rallycross fun but I think a Panther is probably not the best option

edizzle89
edizzle89 Dork
11/17/17 8:52 a.m.

i think it's Eaton Springs who make 1" and 2" lift springs for Vic's.

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/17/17 9:02 a.m.

In reply to Jaynen :

I know it won't be competitive. It will be my first racing experience anyway so it doesn't matter that much to me.

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
11/17/17 9:40 a.m.

They're heavy, the steering is more a suggestion box than an input option, and modulating the throttle for cool looking drifts is a matter of luck on the 05+ with drive by wire.

Put the shifter in 2, shut off OD(not like it matters) and hang on.

Jumps? Deep ruts? Just add more loud pedal.

 

​​​​​​where do you live? If you can make it to an AHR event next season (and I haven't sold out yet) you can run mine to try it out. 

 

Tire choice is up to you. I run general altimax Arctics. Great in the dirt and snow, but E36 M3 in mud unless you cut lugs out. You probably won't be going first on muddy days anyway, just something to keep in mind.

 

Check out mine and toymans channels on YouTube, we've both got video up. My channel is RevsKitchen I believe his is just Toyman.

rslifkin
rslifkin SuperDork
11/17/17 10:35 a.m.
RevRico said:

Put the shifter in 2, shut off OD(not like it matters) and hang on.

If the shifter is in "2", it's not going above 2nd gear, so it wouldn't use OD (4th) regardless of on or off.  IIRC, most Fords will start off in 2nd with the shifter in "2", rather than starting in 1st and not shifting above 2nd.  So there may be times (like right off the start line), where 1st gear is useful.  

Nick Comstock
Nick Comstock MegaDork
11/17/17 10:47 a.m.

In reply to rslifkin :

Not relevant to the crown Vic but you reminded me of a quirk of my 96 Impala SS. If you started with the shifter in first it would automatically shift into second at redline then bounce off the rev limiter in second, but it would also automatically shift back into first when the rpms dropped low enough to allow it which made for some very interesting snap oversteer situations in certain decreasing radius sweepers. 

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
11/17/17 10:55 a.m.

In reply to rslifkin :

Maybe it's all in my head, I just feel like it drives differently with od off. 

It's also strange sometimes it feels like it starts in second on take off, other times I get a shift part way through the first straight or slalom. 230k miles I don't expect everything to still work as designed.

Of course with my whopping 2 events of experience, I'm still trying to find the best way to get around the course. 

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/17/17 11:46 a.m.

I'm won the regional championship in Modified RWD with mine. It is by far the most stupid fun you can have on 4 wheels. I run mine in 1st and just let it turn.

For tires, Firestone Winterforce snow tires are amazing. Gobs of traction. 

 

The car is extremely durable We are averaging 40-50 runs on the car per event. One event it had 7 drivers on it. 

N Sperlo
N Sperlo MegaDork
11/17/17 11:49 a.m.

Lift it up a little and put some nice tires on it. You'll be set. It should be manageable, but like you said, not competitive.

Robbie
Robbie PowerDork
11/17/17 1:31 p.m.

In reply to RevRico :

Sometimes the torque converter lockup can feel like a shift. Turning od off may change the lockup programming.

m_walker26
m_walker26 Reader
11/18/17 8:57 a.m.

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