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oldtin
oldtin SuperDork
7/10/12 9:45 a.m.

Fix and drive the crap out of it and in the meantime, start hoarding V8 parts. If you want something different... don't Audi V8s mate up with 944 transaxles?

edit - I'm very tempted to go looking for 944s with bad clutches - shop prices will put a few of these in storage rather than fixed. Seems like a bargain way in (I have a 928 - I have no fear of a 944).

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
7/10/12 1:33 p.m.
njansenv wrote:
aeronca65t wrote:
njansenv wrote: Most V8 engine swaps use the porsche transaxle. It's one of the benefits of starting with the 944 (or 996)- no need to locate a $$$ T56.
That would greatly simplify things. But how does the clutch and front of the driveshaft work in that setup?
The details can be found http://www.texasperformanceconcepts.com/ Basically, adapter and "custom" clutch between the LS1 and driveshaft, mounts for the LS1. Where can I learn more about the Audi 20v swap? My googlefu is weak on that one....

Use a 924 Turbo bellhousing, bolt it to the front of the 944 torque tube (same as the 924 turbo's) track down the proper factory bellhousing spacer from a 2.7 TT Audi, run 924 turbo flywheel with 924 turbo/944 clutch or use an AAN flywheel and clutch and adapt the hydraulics to work.

Motor mounts are easier with the 924 body. With a 944, one would likely need to adapt the mounts to work.

from there its the usual engine swap project crap, electrical, plumbing, throttle, etc.

http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=33141

http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=18106

Also, beware of the following pitfall:

http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=33841

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
7/10/12 1:38 p.m.
oldtin wrote: Fix and drive the crap out of it and in the meantime, start hoarding V8 parts. If you want something different... don't Audi V8s mate up with 944 transaxles? edit - I'm very tempted to go looking for 944s with bad clutches - shop prices will put a few of these in storage rather than fixed. Seems like a bargain way in (I have a 928 - I have no fear of a 944).

If it isn't the clutch, its the timing belt puked and took out the motor. The clutches aren't much harder than some RWD cars to change, they are just expensive since they are pull-type 911 clutches.

jstein77
jstein77 Dork
7/10/12 1:50 p.m.

"the absolute coolest; which of course was the 944 with the 20valve audi 5cyl running like 25 psi connected to a supra six speed box!"

That just sounds soooo interesting. I drove a novice's 944 on sunday, which rolled like a pig but was pretty responsive and neutral. Stiffened and with a ton of power sounds like it would be a blast.

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
7/10/12 2:17 p.m.
jstein77 wrote: "the absolute coolest; which of course was the 944 with the 20valve audi 5cyl running like 25 psi connected to a supra six speed box!" That just sounds soooo interesting. I drove a novice's 944 on sunday, which rolled like a pig but was pretty responsive and neutral. Stiffened and with a ton of power sounds like it would be a blast.

Bilsteins or Koni's and HD off-road Super Beetle torsion bars (CIP1.com) and 400lb front springs and they can down right book through the corners and with good pads they can stop pretty well too :)

I would use a 968 6-speed though as the Supra piece requires losing the TT, which alters the balance of the car and negates using that chassis. You'd be better off building a Supra or an RX-7 at that point, IMO :)

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson Dork
7/10/12 2:36 p.m.

I hate to try and inject some sanity back into the thread, but he said it needed a clutch and tune up. What’s wrong with keeping the stock cool, rare 2.7L ???

tuna55
tuna55 UltraDork
7/10/12 2:48 p.m.
Adrian_Thompson wrote: I hate to try and inject some sanity back into the thread, but he said it needed a clutch and tune up. What’s wrong with keeping the stock cool, rare 2.7L ???

I have to agree. Unless you're just itching for a big project, just drive it. Lemons it. Chump it. Enjoy it.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic UltimaDork
7/10/12 3:07 p.m.
Adrian_Thompson wrote: I hate to try and inject some sanity back into the thread, but he said it needed a clutch and tune up. What’s wrong with keeping the stock cool, rare 2.7L ???

It is an '84 which equals 2.5 IIRC and leaving it as is boring.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson Dork
7/10/12 3:30 p.m.
93EXCivic wrote:
Adrian_Thompson wrote: I hate to try and inject some sanity back into the thread, but he said it needed a clutch and tune up. What’s wrong with keeping the stock cool, rare 2.7L ???
It is an '84 which equals 2.5 IIRC and leaving it as is boring.

Doh! I'm 1,000,000,000% convinced that when I read this earlier it said it was an 89 944, not an 84 944. Damn tricky pixels trying to confuse me. mutter mutter grumble grumble.

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
7/10/12 3:36 p.m.
tuna55 wrote:
Adrian_Thompson wrote: I hate to try and inject some sanity back into the thread, but he said it needed a clutch and tune up. What’s wrong with keeping the stock cool, rare 2.7L ???
I have to agree. Unless you're just itching for a big project, just drive it. Lemons it. Chump it. Enjoy it.

They also make great SCCA ITS and Spec944 cars....

toad9977
toad9977 New Reader
7/10/12 6:43 p.m.

As 93EXCivic said its an '84 so it is really boring. The funny story on the car is that my dad owned it for about 5 years before selling it to my friend. My friend drove it for about 1000 miles before toasting the clutch. It was a fun car when I drove it, so i just figured adding about 200 more ponies than stock would make it real fun. It sounds like the Texas Performance Concepts conversion kit is the best deal. So the other question is, who wants to sell me a cheap LS1 or LS2?!?!?!

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