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It is horrible. The steerig wheel feels like it might have cost $.00002. The driving position is absolute terrible. And how the hell do you make a 2 litre engine that damn gutless? It is more gutless then the French. The steering isn't horrible but wheel is so bad that it doesn't matter. It seems to be decent handling. How are there not masses of Cobalt owners not just walking around and blowing their brains out Kurt Cobain style?

FlightService
FlightService Reader
11/8/10 7:02 p.m.

yeah they are POS.

I have the Cobalt and the G5 on my not allowed to rent to me at my local rental place.

Apparently alot of people have complained about them because they only get site to site transfers.

Horrible car.

Racer1ab
Racer1ab Reader
11/8/10 7:21 p.m.

Are you seriously basing your whole complaint on the Cobalt because of a cheap feeling steering wheel and a lack of power?

It's a cheap people mover built at a price point, it's not intended to stir your soul!

Zomby woof
Zomby woof Dork
11/8/10 7:33 p.m.

It's a 2.2 with VVT, and I believe 165 hp.

Hardly gutless.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 SuperDork
11/8/10 7:36 p.m.

Cheap, reliable people move? Try a SS supercharged or SS Turbo then come back and try again?

Racer1ab
Racer1ab Reader
11/8/10 7:40 p.m.
DirtyBird222 wrote: Cheap, reliable people move? Try a SS supercharged or SS Turbo then come back and try again?

I did, and loved it! I kinda doubt Avis is renting them...

mndsm
mndsm Dork
11/8/10 8:03 p.m.

I don't trust them cavbalts. No matter what they say- they're still j-bodies.

ansonivan
ansonivan HalfDork
11/8/10 8:07 p.m.
  • jump it
  • post video
  • enjoy an even split of ridicule/praise
ansonivan
ansonivan HalfDork
11/8/10 8:08 p.m.

Do it

ansonivan
ansonivan HalfDork
11/8/10 8:08 p.m.

Do it

ansonivan
ansonivan HalfDork
11/8/10 8:09 p.m.

Zomby woof wrote: It's a 2.2 with VVT, and I believe 165 hp. Hardly gutless.

They feel gutless.

Racer1ab wrote: Are you seriously basing your whole complaint on the Cobalt because of a cheap feeling steering wheel and a lack of power? It's a cheap people mover built at a price point, it's not intended to stir your soul!

My Civic DX was the ultimate in cheap people mover. I mean it didn't even have power steering. It has alloy wheels. Couldn't they have put steelies on it? And taken that same money and put it into a good steering and pedals which don't seem to be two miles apart.

jrw1621
jrw1621 SuperDork
11/8/10 8:49 p.m.
ansonivan wrote: - jump it - post video - enjoy an even split of ridicule/praise

Put me down for praise.
Pay the rental companies extra $15/day insurance and set it on fire.

RoosterSauce
RoosterSauce Reader
11/8/10 8:59 p.m.

Shoulda gota Accent.

It was a Cobalt or Impala or Minivan or truck.

Derick Freese
Derick Freese HalfDork
11/8/10 9:06 p.m.

Truck.

mndsm
mndsm Dork
11/8/10 9:07 p.m.

Minivan. They won't notice when you cut the springs and go bippu.

It was a new F150 and I don't know which one is worse to drive.

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
11/8/10 9:18 p.m.

Haven't we had this conversation before? And the same naysayers (or is it fanbois?) were there too.

FlightService
FlightService Reader
11/8/10 9:27 p.m.
carguy123 wrote: Haven't we had this conversation before? And the same naysayers (or is it fanbois?) were there too.

I was there so +1 for you

carguy123 wrote: Haven't we had this conversation before? And the same naysayers (or is it fanbois?) were there too.

I guess we have but having finally driven one. I am one of the naysayers.

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
11/8/10 9:43 p.m.
The poster formally known as 96DXCivic wrote:
carguy123 wrote: Haven't we had this conversation before? And the same naysayers (or is it fanbois?) were there too.
I guess we have but having finally driven one. I am one of the naysayers.

By naysayers, I meant the ones that screamed "Oh NO! You must be one of those people that is always ragging on GM. You wouldn't know a good/quality car if it bit you in the . . ." That's why I also called them fanbois.

All it takes is an unbiased drive to see it's a limbo car. ("How low can you go?")

The poster formally known as 96DXCivic
The poster formally known as 96DXCivic SuperDork
11/8/10 11:07 p.m.

Or right got it. I am sure GM can build a good car. I mean the steering wheel should be easy to fix and the engine is probably a lot better with a manual and not the god awful automatic attacted. Unless they change the pedals on the Cobalt SS, I would get annoyed with that fairly quickly as well.

The poster formally known as 96DXCivic
The poster formally known as 96DXCivic SuperDork
11/9/10 12:00 a.m.

I was just thinking my Civic had 49bhp less from the factory and weighed 428lbs less. The Cobalt ends up having a power to weight ratio of around 18 lbs/hp and the Civic ends up at around 22 lbs/hp. Yet the Civic feels much easier to pass traffic in.

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