AFAIK there is no solution as yet, but you get free new transmissions with your warranty.
AFAIK there is no solution as yet, but you get free new transmissions with your warranty.
Yes, there is something coming, but I don't know details. The number of warranty claims is far below what the Internet says it is, I know that.
And I'm going to be offline for the next week, so if either of those statements are viewed as highly inflammatory instead of just the facts that come from trustworthy sources, you guys have fun.
They don't make them like they used to anymore.
c0rbin9 wrote: They don't make them like they used to anymore.
I'm going to agree with that, but probably not anything else you'll say in that vein. Across the board, cars are so much better engineered than they used to be. (They're also kinda boring and anonymous looking for the most part, but that's a different issue.) I can't really think of any examples of a new car that I wouldn't expect 200k out of before a major failure, assuming proper maintenance.
New cars are more powerful, more efficient, safer, and better engineered than they were 10, 20, or 30 years ago. My daily driver is $16k new out the door, gets 38mpg on the highway, hauls four adults in comfort, is reasonably enjoyable to drive thanks to a proper manual, and has better fit and finish in a lot of places than the 18-year-old BMW 5-series it replaced. It's damn sure more reliable than the Bimmer.
c0rbin9 wrote: They don't make them like they used to anymore.
They make them just fine. The Miata just has a owner base that use them from full out race-car, to weekend pub crawler and driving skill everywhere in-between. Even the AP1 S2000 had transmission fork issues and that this is built like a tank.
c0rbin9 wrote: They don't make them like they used to anymore.
No, they don't. You can't see out of them, you can't rebuild them indefinitely, and they all look like electric shavers.
c0rbin9 wrote: They don't make them like they used to anymore.
And that's a good thing.
volvoclearinghouse wrote:c0rbin9 wrote: They don't make them like they used to anymore.No, they don't. You can't see out of them, you can't rebuild them indefinitely, and they all look like electric shavers.
"You can't rebuild them indefinitely" can be rephrased as "You don't have to rebuild them indefinitely." Both equally true.
In reply to dculberson:
As much as people rag on everything-as-a-module, it does WONDERS for reliability when switches are low-current signals to a module that controls a nice beefy solid state transistor, instead of heavy duty arcy sparky switches controlling things directly.
Who remembers auto parts stores with Ford, Chrysler, and GM headlight and window switches on the shelves? They were hot sellers.
I've also had to rebuild Mazda headlight switches a time or two. They do disassemble, and can be cleaned up/solder added to beef up contacts, but on the other hand, my 225k Volvo never needed any of that, because everything's requests to modules.
Being concerned about not being able to rebuild is going at it from the mindset that you have to fix everything every 50-60k, which just ain't true anymore.
dculberson wrote:volvoclearinghouse wrote:"You can't rebuild them indefinitely" can be rephrased as "You don't have to rebuild them indefinitely." Both equally true.c0rbin9 wrote: They don't make them like they used to anymore.No, they don't. You can't see out of them, you can't rebuild them indefinitely, and they all look like electric shavers.
Very true. Not making a value judgement, just stating facts.
And yes, it is a fact that they all look like electric shavers. 
Granted, some electric shavers are sexier-looking than others, but that's still what they look like.
In reply to Knurled:
A lot of those issues with switches could have been solved by manufacturers spending the extra few dollars to use relays for stuff instead of running full current through headlight switches, etc.
In reply to volvoclearinghouse:
Have you ever looked at the nose on a 1962 Ford Falcon?...I think that's about as 'electric shaver' as has ever been made.
In reply to Driven5:
I've just failed at finding a picture of a Braun edition car that was sold in Europe with a grill that looked just like a Braun electric razor. There was one with diplomatic plates in my old neighborhood. It was a red wagon, I believe made by Toyota.
motomoron wrote: In reply to Driven5: I've just failed at finding a picture of a Braun edition car that was sold in Europe with a grill that looked just like a Braun electric razor. There was one with diplomatic plates in my old neighborhood. It was a red wagon, I believe made by Toyota.
Yeah I can't imagine Mazda let the most raced car in the country have a bad tranny. To put it in perspective, Tesla took more deposits on the Model 3 than Mazda, not Miatas, but Mazda sold in the US last year.
Let that sink in.
Enthusiasts love Mazda and Mazda loves enthusiasts. They may dismiss everyone screaming for more power, but they won't let thier cars break when they are new and being used as intended.
FWIW, Mazda just released new part numbers for the transmission not too long ago. Apparently any ND Miata assembled after 9/5/2016 should have the new gearbox.
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost.php?p=8163572&postcount=1894
and
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost.php?p=8163656&postcount=1898
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