Is the toyota premium fuel only? I still like a rust free 06 or older silverado with a 4.8 because they seem to last forever and are cheap to fix. When you do a search, look at high mileage like over 200K first and see what brand is most common.
Is the toyota premium fuel only? I still like a rust free 06 or older silverado with a 4.8 because they seem to last forever and are cheap to fix. When you do a search, look at high mileage like over 200K first and see what brand is most common.
In my "what truck" post, everyone was telling me not to worry about the ecoboost.
I bought a 6.2 Chevrolet.
If I were you, I'd buy the 5.0.
I'm not a truck guy, and really know nothing about them, but every time Car and Driver runs a truck comparison test, the Ram wins. Have you considered that option?
In reply to porschenut :
No- the 5.7 takes regular. The 4.6 in the gx460 does take premium. We have both here.
In reply to jstein77 :
Although I more of a GM guy I do like the Dodge trucks. If I went brand new, Id go with the ram, I like that they are older engines and platforms. We've had 5 dodges in the family all over 300k miles. I just towed the camaro home 5 hours with an 05 1500 5.7 with 500K miles. In 500K miles E36 M3 breaks but everything has been pretty easy and inexpensive except the trans which waited til 400K miles with lots of towing to get all loosey goosey. It still worked when it was rebuilt, but it would slip for about the first 5-10 seconds after you started the engine.
Im a big fan of the first generation Tundra. Outside of the rack bushings (not a big deal), shifter breaking (big deal but not super common) and timing belts (atleast its got a long interval), they seem to be incredibly reliable and cheap to fix normally. Also drive pretty nice and seem to hold value very well.
Not as big a fan of the 2nd gen. Lots of things are a pretty big pain in the ass to fix. Racks like to fail and atleast on the 4x4s they recommend pulling the engine to service them. Yes you can get around it but its still a huge pain in the ass and a shop will inevitably charge you the 16.5 hours if you have someone do it. Ive seen timing chain issues and noises, that are expensive and a PITA, the overcomplicated and expensive air pump system is garbage, and starters seem to fail often and they call for manifold removal and about 6 hours IIRC. They do seem relatively reliable, but they also seem like when stuff fails its going to big a bigger job than it probably should. Toyota built a E36 M3 air injection system on the 4.7 and when they did the 5.7 they said, I know what will make it better, 2 air pumps instead of one.
I'd buy This 2011 platinum v8 with 4K more miles and a clean title for $17k before the $15,500 rebuilt one.
Steve_Jones said:I'd buy This 2011 platinum v8 with 4K more miles and a clean title for $17k before the $15,500 rebuilt one.
A 12 year old car from the northeast is a difficult sell to someone down south.
jstein77 said:I'm not a truck guy, and really know nothing about them, but every time Car and Driver runs a truck comparison test, the Ram wins. Have you considered that option?
I'm a victim of that. Ecodiesel saga and broken axle at 94k. Just one data point but it was fine until about 80k then a lemon. 2016 ram 1500.
I bet he's driving or towing the new truck home right now...
pres589 (djronnebaum) said:I'd probably roll the dice with the 2011 V8 truck myself.
frenchyd said:In reply to SV reX :
Because of the Aluminum body , I'd go for that. But you don't have rust issues. The other advantage it has is weight. You seriously feel it accelerate, hard. Add Flex fuel and it's impressive.
I also like the newer 4 cam 5 liter over the 302 pushrod engine.
Some of those whistles and bells make economic sense. Blind spot or advance cruise means lower chance of an accident. Lower cost insurance.
The arm rest on the newer ones is a great work platform for note writing or just writing, typing etc.
Just as a heads up, Ford stopped producing the pushrod 5.0 almost 30 years ago.
So what truck did you end up with?
5.0l vs Ecoboost? The answer is...
... BOTH!
I passed on the rebuilt title truck. The price wasn't low enough to be worth it.
I ended up buying a gorgeous condition 2013 F150 Platinum EB from CarMax. It was a cherry ride, but a little overpriced and 2WD. I drove it 734 miles over the weekend but really wasn't feeling it. I paid a bit more than I felt comfortable, didn't like the way it towed, really thought I'd regret not having 4WD. I felt like I had paid for "plush", and ignored my work truck needs. I also think I have lost faith a little in the Ecoboost. So I took advantage of CarMax's 30 day return policy and gave it back.
The same day I found a clean title 2013 F150 FX4 with the 5.0L. I gave up a few shiny bits, gained a couple small scratches, added 20K miles, but got the 5.0L and 4WD, and saved $9000. I was able to buy it for cash. It's a very well maintained truck with all the frills I need.
Its got a Magnaflow exhaust which is too loud. I'll be changing that immediately. I will probably also lose the lift kit and put road tires on it, but I'm gonna drive it for a while first.
Thanks for the help guys. I'm feeling good.
Interesting on the CarMax return. Were they dick-ish about it? Were they high pressure about it only being a credit towards another purchase? Was there any charge for the 700 miles added or full refund?
5.0 would be my preferred choice too.
Does you phone number still end with 2766? I sent you a text but unsure if it landed.
So what do you think about the 5.0 vs the EB?
In reply to John Welsh :
Absolutely not.
CarMax was a fantastic buying experience. They have taken away all the BS associated with car dealers. They sell excellent condition used vehicles, charge a fair price (slightly high, but you get what you pay for). No haggling. Prices are on the windshield. The only thing extra I paid was sales tax. They made financing impressively easy, and have an expedited paperwork process (I did everything over the phone, and the paperwork was ready when I got there. Signed and drove away).
The return was just as easy. I went in prepared for a fight and 2 hours worth of stress. The reality is all I got were smiles and encouragement. "That's what our 30 day return policy is for". They paid to fix a couple dings in the door before I took ownership, no additional charges for the mileage, and didn't even make any comments about the fact that they had given it to me with a full tank of gas, and I returned it empty. Not a penny additional charge, and I was done in 20 minutes.
I am VERY impressed with CarMax. They do an amazing job.
In reply to John Welsh :
No. Sent you my number
Opti said:So what do you think about the 5.0 vs the EB?
I'm gonna reserve judgement for a little while. I hate the exhaust and need to change it before I have an opinion. The tires aren't helping either.
The EB is a rocket when you stomp on it. I don't think the 5.0 will have a similar power delivery. But I always drove my EB with 2000 lbs on board, and it's not a rocket then. I have a feeling the power will feel very similar in the 5.0 when loaded, and deliver the power without the turbo lag in a very linear manner.
I've had 2 CarMax buying experiences. Both were fantastic. I'd recommend them to anyone who wants a good car buying experience and is willing to pay a bit more.
Interesting note... they seem to attract the good quality salespeople who are also sick of the BS and high pressure sales. They are totally focused on good customer service, not on their commissions.
Glad you got a solution. I think that generation 5.0 is a good one. The early ones used oil(2011) and the newer ones use a bunch of oil.
In reply to SV reX :
I almost bought a car from carmax a couple weeks ago, and I think most people will end up paying less if the shop at carmax.
I went through financing with a couple dealers and carmax. Carmax might have wanted more for the car, but they gave me much closer to what I think was my real rate (they went through my bank and it was very close to what my bank had offered me directly), they didnt add a ton of BS packages, and they gave on the higher end for trade in. Other dealers, started at more than double my real rate, offered less for the car, and added a bunch of packages (im not paying 2 grand for floormats and nitrogen). Id prefer to pay a little more for the car and not get screwed at every other possible place.
In reply to SV reX :
Yah Coyotes really dont sound good with most exhausts. I went to a test and tune before the coyote shootout and it was unbearable.
Congrats - good looking truck.
Could likely swap the exhaust and wheels for some nicer stockers to some local yokel and get some $$ on the deal too.
In reply to 93gsxturbo :
I don't have time to go searching for a bro local yokel who wants to swap exhaust. The exhaust shop says they can swap in a decent muffler for $280. That works for me.
If that's not good enough, I'll have them add back the resonators.
Tonight I decided to try swapping the tires from my old truck. Those 35" mud tires look cool, but suck for highway driving.
I had a nearly new set of Michelin 275/55's on my old truck, so I swapped them around.
Huge difference. Way quieter, much smoother ride, and significantly better acceleration. I was concerned the 5.0L was lacking in acceleration, but it really woke up with the smaller tires.
The 275's are 3" shorter than the 35's, and 2 1/2" narrower. The 35's were shockingly heavy.
Extra bonus... it's also easier to get in and out of the truck, and the bed. I guess I'm getting old.
I've never liked the Platinum wheels, so I'll probably be putting my Michelins on the new wheels.
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