geomiata
geomiata Reader
11/29/08 5:13 p.m.

I drive a geo metro convertible, and anything inside the car is worth less than the 2 y.o. soft top. That being the case i leave it unlocked at all times. i would love to hear some wiring tricks or ignition tricks to keep it from being stolen (yeah some people are that stupid). I have heard of people wiring in switches that have to be on to operate the car. Any shared experiences/ advise would be appreciated.

porksboy
porksboy HalfDork
11/29/08 6:04 p.m.

My father put a toggle switch in the positive wire to the coil them hid it under the dash. This was the late 60's on a 66 Chevy P/U in southern California. Truck would crank but not start. I have a Horible Freight battery cutout swith in the negative battery lead hidden under the dash of my Spitfire. Car wont start but will run if turned off.

Luke
Luke Dork
11/29/08 6:56 p.m.

What about an aftermarket steering wheel lock? The visible type, that clamps onto the actual wheel.

I've heard of people removing the rotor button from the distributor each time they leave their car, but that just seems like way too much effort to me.

Jensenman
Jensenman SuperDork
11/29/08 7:11 p.m.

A toggle switch under the dash to kill the ignition is a quick and easy way to disable a car. Get a good quality switch rated at least for 15 amps and once wired in do NOT tell anyone where it is. Some times yo' friends ain't yo' friends. Or maybe THEIR friends ain't yo' friends.

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt HalfDork
11/29/08 7:20 p.m.

There is probably a clutch kill switch that prevents the car from starting unless you have your foot on the clutch pedal. How about creatively relocating that?

skruffy
skruffy Dork
11/29/08 10:06 p.m.

I pull the PCM fuse off my protege when I'm leaving it somewhere for extended periods. I can't imagine someone would figure that one out in a hurry.

Everything looks right underhood. Cranks but won't start.

Jensenman
Jensenman SuperDork
11/30/08 8:26 a.m.
derekshannon wrote:
Luke wrote: What about an aftermarket steering wheel lock? The visible type, that clamps onto the actual wheel.
I know the steering wheel is pretty easy to hack-saw through. The bar comes right off after that. I used to think I was smart taking the coil wire off my Wrangler until I realized that you could take an ignition wire off to replace it. It made a straight-6 into a straight-5 but it would still be able to be driven away.

You don't even need a hacksaw. Bolt cutters take about 5 seconds to cut through a steering wheel.

geomiata
geomiata Reader
11/30/08 1:44 p.m.
MadScientistMatt wrote: There is probably a clutch kill switch that prevents the car from starting unless you have your foot on the clutch pedal. How about creatively relocating that?

where can i find this?

Stuc
Stuc HalfDork
11/30/08 2:49 p.m.

If you follow the pedal up it is usually around the top of the pedal. I would leave it... just wire in a switch on the ignition. It has to be hidden REALLY well but that's all you need. There is no way they can get it running unless they mess with all the wiring.

You could enforce it with a battery cut-off as well. That one usually comes in handy for working on the car, too.

geomiata
geomiata Reader
11/30/08 4:03 p.m.

genius

ClemSparks
ClemSparks SuperDork
12/1/08 7:57 a.m.

I wired in a switch in the clutch pedal/starter interrupt circuit on one of mine. It was really easy. I'd rather have made it so it would crank but not start (ie: the ignition circuit) but this was "good enough."

one that I always wanted to do was to get a two position rotary switch (I never found one with only two positions...they always had more...but that's really not a problem) and mock up a fake cigar lighter knob.

You'd have to twist the cigar lighter knob to enable the ignition and/or starter.

This could be done with a push switch too.

A neighbor has a car that you have to actuate two of the power window switches before it will start. It's a mazda...I don't know if that's an aftermarket security feature or what...

Clem

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
12/2/08 12:27 a.m.

I just completed a Megajolt installation in my car. The Mj unit is about the size of a pack of smokes. Unplug the vac line and the one plug with the wires. Put in pocket and go. Unless you are another Mj and the corect map in it you are not going anywhere.

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro New Reader
12/2/08 1:02 a.m.

My buddy had a setup in his Toyota pickup that used a cig lighter.

He used a Bosch relay in the ignition lead and used the cig lighter to ground the relay.

Push in lighter, lighter completes relay circuit and engages realy. Relay completes ignition circuit and it starts.

It disables you cigarette lighters "lighter" function but works great, just put the lighter in your pocket when you walk away.

What theif would bring a replacement cig lighter with them?

Shawn

Tommy Suddard
Tommy Suddard GRM+ Member
12/2/08 5:40 a.m.

All you would need is a small screwdriver to complete the connection.

byron12
byron12 New Reader
12/2/08 5:47 a.m.

You guys kill switches are alot more clever than mine I wired a toggle switch under the dash of my wifes car when her purse was stolen.

minimac
minimac Dork
12/2/08 7:12 a.m.

When i bought my new RX-7(1979) I wired a toggle into coil circuit. The switch was hidden inside the console, along side of the seat. I would hit the switch when buckling and unbuckling the seat belt, so even if you rode with me, you never knew it was there.

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro New Reader
12/2/08 9:35 a.m.
Tommy Suddard wrote: All you would need is a small screwdriver to complete the connection.

Who sticks a screwdriver into a lighter socket to start a car?

Seriously, if they really want it they'll bring a rolllback.

Shawn

aircooled
aircooled Dork
12/2/08 10:08 a.m.
minimac wrote: When i bought my new RX-7(1979) I wired a toggle into coil circuit. The switch was hidden inside the console, along side of the seat. I would hit the switch when buckling and unbuckling the seat belt, so even if you rode with me, you never knew it was there.

I was going to suggest something like this also. Something near the seat that you don't have to make an obvious reach for. Makes it easier to activate, and harder to notice you turning it on.

The cigarette lighter trick is definitely nice, but it does make it a pain if you ever want to use anything powered through the lighter (which a lot of things are these days).

RussellH
RussellH New Reader
12/2/08 10:56 a.m.

Several years ago my window dropped into the channel when I pulled into work. I parked the car under the parking structure to protect from the rain, popped the hood and took the ignition coil wire with me.

tuffburn
tuffburn New Reader
12/2/08 11:43 a.m.
Trans_Maro wrote:
Tommy Suddard wrote: All you would need is a small screwdriver to complete the connection.
Who sticks a screwdriver into a lighter socket to start a car? Seriously, if they really want it they'll bring a rolllback. Shawn

i just busted out laughing! but seriously, who could figure that out?

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/2/08 1:51 p.m.

If you had a Cavalier you wouldn't have to worry. I drove with two missing windows for a month before I had time to replace them. No one even took the change out of my ashtray at the train station.

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