It will certainly be the most attractive Prius ever.
It will certainly be the most attractive Prius ever.
I love it. Not the car, but the thread. I wouldn't want to do it. I'd rather have a Prius or a Firebird than the resulting Pribird, but it's his car to do with what he wants and the amount of hate and discontent he will generate is funny.
I tend to think of these 'body meld a new car with XYZ' type projects as being a very tedious and complicated over-reaction to being afraid of wiring. There is another one going on here at GRM right now.
Vigo wrote: I tend to think of these 'body meld a new car with XYZ' type projects as being a very tedious and complicated over-reaction to being afraid of wiring. There is another one going on here at GRM right now.
I thought it was done because people want the suspension and drive train from one car, but the styling of another.
I saw the ecomodder thread a couple days ago and posted a link on one of the Firebird/Trans Am forums to see what the reaction would be. Surprisingly there's been less negative feedback (and more positive) than there has been in this thread from the Firebird guys even though there's probably a higher percentage of purist types there.
Isn't this the forum where almost anything goes? If someone's willing to put the work into their car, to build what they want, with their money, we support it and wish them success? Even if we wouldn't do it?
So like, at what point is he going to be upset when 1960s aerodynamics make his Prius less efficient?
Chadeux wrote: So like, at what point is he going to be upset when 1960s aerodynamics make his Prius less efficient?
If I had to pull a number out of my ass, I'd guess it won't break 40 highway, city numbers should remain pretty close to stock.
Yuk.
Vigo wrote: I tend to think of these 'body meld a new car with XYZ' type projects as being a very tedious and complicated over-reaction to being afraid of wiring. There is another one going on here at GRM right now.
Given that it's a Prius, I'd be scared of the amount of wiring required to make that happen. Plus, the Prius's drivetrain could not be adapted to a north-south layout, so the only other way I could think to bring the parts over is to find a way to put the Prius drivetrain where the back seat used to be.
NOT A TA wrote: I saw the ecomodder thread a couple days ago and posted a link on one of the Firebird/Trans Am forums to see what the reaction would be. Surprisingly there's been less negative feedback (and more positive) than there has been in this thread from the Firebird guys even though there's probably a higher percentage of purist types there.
There's a discussion about this car on the Performance Years Pontiac board, and the posts from some of the troglodytes there are pretty amazing...most are calling him gay, one person thinks he should be lynched, and one person said, "People like that are why we lose wars now" which doesn't make any sense at all.
T.J. wrote: I love it. Not the car, but the thread. I wouldn't want to do it. I'd rather have a Prius or a Firebird than the resulting Pribird, but it's his car to do with what he wants and the amount of hate and discontent he will generate is funny.
This.
JamesMcD wrote:Vigo wrote: I tend to think of these 'body meld a new car with XYZ' type projects as being a very tedious and complicated over-reaction to being afraid of wiring. There is another one going on here at GRM right now.I thought it was done because people want the suspension and drive train from one car, but the styling of another.
This would be more my case.
I mean, good on him. That's a difficult undertaking, and hey, if it's what he wants to do.
Someones Sig over there said: Gerhard Plattner: "The best attitude is to consider fuel saving a kind of sport. Everybody who has enough money for a strong car, can drive fast and hit the pedal. But saving fuel requires concentration, self-control and cleverness. It's a challenge with the nice effect of saving you money that you can use for other more important things."
This quote though... no. Thats enough to keep me off of that site pretty much forever. There is NOTHING more important than the car. I have a kid and I say that. I just don't see 10-20 cents a week really being worth that kind of frustrating aggravation unless it's that much fun to slow everyone down behind you.
stuart in mn wrote: There's a discussion about this car on the Performance Years Pontiac board, and the posts from some of the troglodytes there are pretty amazing...most are calling him gay, one person thinks he should be lynched, and one person said, "People like that are why we lose wars now" which doesn't make any sense at all.
What do you expect from Performance Years? I occasionally check out both that board and various Powerstroke/Superduty boards, and the Performance Years guys scare me a lot more.
I won't post anything about my SBC-powered Firebirds at Performance Years for fear of certain redneck backlash against not having "Pontiac Power" under the hood. Which is a little rich considering both of my Firebirds (a 78 Esprit and an 81 TA) were SBC-powered from the factory. It's one thing to say you should keep a Pontiac-powered car Pontiac-powered. But when you are telling people they should swap out the original powertrain with something else because it's what they prefer, you have crossed the line from purist to zealot.
Anyhow, I would never do what this guy is doing to that poor 1st gen, but it's his car.
revrico wrote: I mean, good on him. That's a difficult undertaking, and hey, if it's what he wants to do.Someones Sig over there said: Gerhard Plattner: "The best attitude is to consider fuel saving a kind of sport. Everybody who has enough money for a strong car, can drive fast and hit the pedal. But saving fuel requires concentration, self-control and cleverness. It's a challenge with the nice effect of saving you money that you can use for other more important things."This quote though... no. Thats enough to keep me off of that site pretty much forever. There is NOTHING more important than the car. I have a kid and I say that. I just don't see 10-20 cents a week really being worth that kind of frustrating aggravation unless it's that much fun to slow everyone down behind you.
Don't forget that slowing down for corners and accelerating out of them is inefficient. High cornering speeds are the eco way to go.
Can't tell me that's not fun.
Keith Tanner wrote: Don't forget that slowing down for corners and accelerating out of them is inefficient. High cornering speeds are the eco way to go. Can't tell me that's not fun.
Yep. The goal is to keep average speed up as close to your steady cruising speed as possible for the roads you're on. Most efficient acceleration pace depends on the car (and will often be faster than most other traffic in a well-powered car). Beyond that, the goal is just to brake as little as possible (take corners fast, coast towards red lights, jump into the empty lane and blow past the guys waiting in line when the light goes green, because they raced up to it and had to stop while you didn't, etc.)
Just because you can...
bravenrace wrote: Just because you can...
In regards to your signature line.
Birth continues to be the leading cause of death.
This is just one step above taking a MGB, filling it with car batteries and adding an electric motor.
In either case, the result is slow, saves gas, and sucks mightily. 1 + 1 = 0.75
I thought it was done because people want the suspension and drive train from one car, but the styling of another.
Sure, but there are tons of old hot rods with vette-derived suspension and engines that didn't involve actually using a whole corvette frame. I think most of the projects that actually involve leaving an intact floorpan/drivetrain from one car and trying to graft another body to it is because people don't feel like they can successfully modify the setup for another car and still have it work when they get done. This firebird/prius swap actually makes more sense to me than most of the other ones i've seen, but it's still using saws and welders to address challenges that are mostly electrical.
BrokenYugo wrote: In reply to Hal: Gen1 Camaros, sure those are freakin everywhere, Firebirds, I might have noticed 4 total in my life, given I don't look hard, but it's definitely the rarer of the F bodies.
This, after doing Mecum for so many years, I think I'd rather see this done to an original copo camaro over a firebird.
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