200HP and 266 lb/ft of torque from Zero RPM. It has an aggressive regen braking setting that is basically left-foot braking. Sure, it's a bit heavy but the weight is very low in the chassis and the 0-60 performance specs put it right up there with the Fiesta ST. With some aggressive tires, this thing could be a contender.
One issue I can see with it is that the HP and torque ratings are at full charge, so depending on how far you have to drive to the event, it could be considerably less than that by the time you get there.
"Wait, I can't run yet, my generator is still topping off my charge!"
I'd be more concerned about the height to width ratio than anything else.
NickD
HalfDork
3/4/16 11:49 a.m.
jstein77 wrote:
One issue I can see with it is that the HP and torque ratings are at full charge, so depending on how far you have to drive to the event, it could be considerably less than that by the time you get there.
"Wait, I can't run yet, my generator is still topping off my charge!"
This. And even on a good day, a Volt only gets 40 miles per charge, so for a taller, less aerodynamic vehicle, I'd say less.
We had someone try to do an all-electric lap in a CR-Z once. Halfway through the run, it ran out of battery power and switched over to just the engine without electric motor assist.
In reply to NickD:
CR-Z hybrid system is IMA. The motor is bolted rigidly to the crank. No clutch between gas and electric systems. All electric running shouldn't be possible. The motor does regen, starting and assist.
That said, you can empty the battery in a minute or so during an aggressive run.
tuna55
MegaDork
3/4/16 12:18 p.m.
In reply to jstein77:
This is not like the R/C cars of yore, where power is gradually reduced until it's gone. It's full power until it reaches some critical level and shuts off.
In reply to tuna55:
Right. Like a lithium ion drill.
NickD wrote:
And even on a good day, a Volt only gets 40 miles per charge, so for a taller, less aerodynamic vehicle, I'd say less.
The Bolt has a different battery (among other things) and has 200 miles of range.
If like to see someone do it. It won't be me since I don't have the disposable income to wad up a new EV, but I agree the reasoning sounds solid.
There will be a certain irony towing your electric car to a race to save the charge.
^Again, there's no need. It won't get slower as charge decreases like an RC car.
NickD
HalfDork
3/4/16 1:58 p.m.
GameboyRMH wrote:
NickD wrote:
And even on a good day, a Volt only gets 40 miles per charge, so for a taller, less aerodynamic vehicle, I'd say less.
The Bolt has a different battery (among other things) and has 200 miles of range.
Eh, shows how much I pay attention to these things. And I work for GM.
Uhhhh, no. Weight would be its undoing.....
G_Body_Man wrote:
I'd be more concerned about the height to width ratio than anything else.
this is going to be the big one. IIRC the sonic is boarder line now for rollover rating.
GameboyRMH wrote:
^Again, there's no need. It won't get slower as charge decreases like an RC car.
Understood. You drive an hour to an autox. You race. Are you gonna make it an hour home again? How are you going to recharge at a remote abandoned airfield with no power?
Raze
UltraDork
3/4/16 6:42 p.m.
In reply to Brett_Murphy:
Ohhhh snap
3580lbs for those curious. And "30k starting price"
In reply to chiodos:
"$30k starting price" so long as you make enough money to offset the alternative energy tax credit(which I sincerely hope disappears soon)
G_Body_Man wrote:
I'd be more concerned about the height to width ratio than anything else.
Don't they keep the batteries on these pretty low, which would move the center of gravity pretty low as well.
WOW Really Paul? wrote:
Uhhhh, no. Weight would be its undoing.....
Just like the GT-R. and the Veyron. And the Tesla. And any SRT-8 vehicle. And...
kb58
Dork
3/6/16 10:05 a.m.
Maybe this is the one that'll prove everyone wrong. Right now I'm still pissed at electric car companies and their Marketing Departments - and the people who believe their statements. I guess nothing's really changed, that gasoline-powered cars claim "400 hp" and 25 mpg, but the moronic public takes the "and" to mean "at the same time." Same goes for electric cars, that 200 mile range is going to get very very small when driven hard. Why not run a test and take it out to your local "clover leaf test track" and run it really hard for 3 minutes, simulating three runs. What's the range at the end of that?