It followed me home, Mom...

David S. Wallens wrote: BMX.

LOL

So many sick choices.

LS1 F20C (whatever the Miata mill is) SR20/SR20DET RB25

Make it electric

z31maniac wrote:

ignorant wrote: I don't know the weight of LSx combinations, but my gut feel says it'll make the car too nose heavy. 13B is nice.

I thought the similar weight was one of the reasons for the popularity of that swap into FDs.

a 13B is a different engine than a the FD engine. Twin turbo's intercooler, associated piping. Yeah I could see how an FD engine is about the same as a LS1

A 13B of any flavor, from NA to T to TT to REW, will definitely fit completely behind the front axle centerline and between the frame rails. Yes, I've been busy with a tape measure.

V8's have been done in these cars, but I am hesitant to make it weigh any more than it did, and I have a gut feeling anything other than the olde skool Rover (pricey to modify) or the late all alloy GM V8 (help me here, I don't know the designation) will add way too much weight in the nose unless I chop a big hole in the firewall. There's also height to consider.

Anybody have dimensions on the SR20 motor? I like the idea of that.

what about a Subaru motor? Yep I love flat 4 motors

whoever said 2.3 Ford, those motors are tanks, and only weigh about 30 lbs less than an iron-block 302. Don't get me wrong, I love those motors, but they're rediculous heavy.

I'll be the oddball and say BEAMS 3S-GE, though I'm surprised no one has said F20C or F22C.

If you're looking for a dirt cheap motor, a KA24E could be picked up for a song from a drifter doing an SR20 swap in their 240SX.

The 1UZFE weighs about 400 pounds. About the same weight as an LS1, but it can be had for a lot cheaper, of course.

I don't know what a 13b weighs, but it's probably less until you get the hankering for turbo then it'll end up about the same.

LS1 geezz you can't go wrong with one.

Rotaries are cool in dune buggies and go carts.

If you wanted to go GM Atlas 4.2 I6 you'll have to use an auto tranny which would suck.

Honda F20? S2K motor, or a K20 put in the correct way? Can't beat the reliability of a Honda or the sound of VTEC y0. Both engines love to be revved, parts are cheap, easy to work on, ect!

A Cummins I6 turbo diesel...it would be one of a kind

neon4891 wrote: A Cummins I6 turbo diesel...it would be one of a kind

engine weighs more than car. chassis will not hold.

Hey Jensen... I still have a 302 and a core T5 ;)

You wanted to drive to Michigan this fall right?

I watched, along with many others, the build up of that car over at IT dot com. Except for the fact that they literally could not keep a motor alive for more than a session, the car is top notch. The last I heard, the driveshaft self-destructed on the back straight at VIR earlier this year.

The guy's buddy races a TR8 in the southwest, where his major concern is getting a set of brake seals to last more than a day - think Honda Civic brakes with V8 power.

suprecharged literbike motor... especially if you go with one that's shaft drive.

bluej wrote: suprecharged literbike motor... especially if you go with one that's shaft drive.

Ooooh! You can get wrecked FZ1's for excellent prices. Bone stock they push about 120hp. Weigh next to nothing, sequential transmission, what fun. Hayabusas cost more, but have more power.

Yeah Wreckerboy, that's the same car. It was very well put together, the cage in particular is all first class work. The guy who had it had discovered the car is really not properly classed, it should be in ITA not ITS, but that's been an ongoing battle. In Production, the J-H is very competitive but the costs go up by several orders of magnitude.

After the driveshaft let go at VIR he decided to concentrate his efforts on a 260Z. I have been toying with building a J-H AX/HC car for a while, even had a line on a couple of body shells but this popped up and saved me a LOT of work.

The TR8 was present at the time I picked up this car, and the guy who owned this one had just taken delivery of a very nice looking 1974 Torino with a 351C and 4 speed.

I was gonna say S2K mill (F20?) like that old Celica in the last issue, but a 302/LS1 would be way cheaper/easier/more powerful.

Free is the best price :)

Jensenman wrote: Anybody have dimensions on the SR20 motor? I like the idea of that.

Are you sure? I think I was the first to suggest it, and you usually don't like my ideas.

Also, I was going to suggest Rover V8, but you're right about that being expensive.

Chrysler 2.5 turbo? Dakota R-154 bellhousing and Toyota R-154 transmission. Cheap and sturdy, lighter than a Ford motor. Adapt a Neon/Stratus DOHC head for more power.

Neon 2.0 or Stratus 2.4 DOHC? Similar to the 2.2 (transmission bellhousings are more expensive and harder to find)

Rotary would be nice, but they seem almost too common sometimes, plus getting one that isn't worn out is more difficult than it used to be. Although a newer Renesis might be interesting to play with.

How about an Audi V6 or V8? Lightweight, compact, all aluminum engines. Use a shortened 944 Torque Tube with a 924 turbo bellhousing (Audi bellhousing pattern) an Audi/944 transaxle in the back to help with the weight balance. Use an Audi V8 rear axle limited slip differential in the transaxle to gain a Torsen on the cheap. Add a blower, air and fuel, mix thoroughly, roast tires until smoldering, serve to competitors while still warm.

billy3esq wrote:

Jensenman wrote: Anybody have dimensions on the SR20 motor? I like the idea of that.

Are you sure? I think I was the first to suggest it, and you usually don't like my ideas.

Like my old grammy sez: even a busted clock is right twice a day.

Feedyurhed wrote: Awesome score!!! How does this always happen to other people and never me?

Same here...

Re: motor... no idea... but I'll enjoy watching you do whatever to it.

More thinkin': I'm likin' the 13B thing but a 3.0 Nissan V6 is intriguing as well. It's sorta tall (I don't want to cut the hood) but IIRC the Maxima intake brings the height down a good bit and they can make stupid big HP with the right tweaking. It should be short enough to fit completely behind the front axle centerline, which is very important in my plans for good weight distribution and a low PMI.

What's the peanut gallery think of that one?

Jensen, seriously, $150.00 come and get it. 5.0L/302 from a later Fox Muffedstain...

Mmmm... tempting, but too much choppin' to get the lump back far enough for good weight distribution. J-H's are pretty well balanced to begin with and I'd hate to screw that up.

Now, there's yet another project that's still in the beer drinkin' stages...

Turbo dodge motor facing the right way?

Dude - Miata if you want to be sane. SR20DET if you don't. There are only 2 right answers.