Sell the soul-sucker and live a little. We're young. Enjoy it.
I'd sell the Civic too, after you knock out that Pontiac debt.
Replace with whatever makes your pants tighter when you drive it AND that you can pay cash for.
Sell the soul-sucker and live a little. We're young. Enjoy it.
I'd sell the Civic too, after you knock out that Pontiac debt.
Replace with whatever makes your pants tighter when you drive it AND that you can pay cash for.
I would have to say keep the fun car. I was faced with this a few years ago while still in grad school. My escort gt had previously been wrecked...bad (why I got it so cheap!). One of the repair welds on the sub frame on the front let go...I couldn't afford/didn't have the tools to fix it then...So I let it go and took over my moms KIA (would have been OK if it wouldn't have been a slush box). I graduated 2 years ago...still don't have a fun car yet...It seems that responsibility catches up to you quicker than you would ever realize...
Keep the civic!
Sell the Grand Prix, and hold on to what ever cash you have left over after paying it off. DD the Civic while you look for a near-mint E30 with records, take your time. See if you can work out a trade for the Civic (probably not), but buy the E30 anyway because you won't have any problems unloading the Honda after you buy the BWM. If it all works out well, you might even have a few bills left over to use on maintenance. Feel free to substitute a 944/924S if you like those better, and aren't afraid of using a bit more elbow grease when changing some parts.
red pill, you can only live once.
Red pill....... sell the 05 pontiac while it i still worth more than you paid for it (that wont last much longer), make the civic comfortable with part of the proceeds (the previous suggestion about a better suspension is on point), and bank the rest for a future trackrat craigslist e30 or miata that comes up it wont take long and will free you from your self imposed overcautiousness).
A lot of good response, thanks guys!
Selling the civic would definitely be harder than selling the Grand Prix. Honda's arent popular around here anymore. If it isnt a 240sx, no one really cares lol
I've definitely got some thinking to do. The enthusiast in me is screaming sell the grand prix. (or both and go the miata route). But the responsible side is yelling sell the civic and grow up... even though really, both sides actually sound kind of responsible by not letting my credit get miffed.
Grow up? Fuggedaboutit. I'm over 40 and still haven't managed that. Make a financially sensible decision, yet, but don't put a downpayment on a hearing aid beige Camry yet.
May I suggest, selling both and buying something more suited to dual duty? Sell the Pontiac first, get a bead on a good replacement (Some type of 3 series, used Cobalt SS, you know what you need), pick up new car, get rid of civic. It's just crazy enough to work!
BoxheadTim wrote: Grow up? Fuggedaboutit. I'm over 40 and still haven't managed that. Make a financially sensible decision, yet, but don't put a downpayment on a hearing aid beige Camry yet.
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cxhb wrote: A lot of good response, thanks guys! Selling the civic would definitely be harder than selling the Grand Prix. Honda's arent popular around here anymore. If it isnt a 240sx, no one really cares lol I've definitely got some thinking to do. The enthusiast in me is screaming sell the grand prix. (or both and go the miata route). But the responsible side is yelling sell the civic and grow up... even though really, both sides actually sound kind of responsible by not letting my credit get miffed.
It is way more responsible to sell the car you don't own (debt).
Does the car move, steer, shift, stop? Then it can be daily driven responsibly. The rest is easy.
tuna55 wrote:cxhb wrote: A lot of good response, thanks guys! Selling the civic would definitely be harder than selling the Grand Prix. Honda's arent popular around here anymore. If it isnt a 240sx, no one really cares lol I've definitely got some thinking to do. The enthusiast in me is screaming sell the grand prix. (or both and go the miata route). But the responsible side is yelling sell the civic and grow up... even though really, both sides actually sound kind of responsible by not letting my credit get miffed.It is way more responsible to sell the car you don't own (debt). Does the car move, steer, shift, stop? Then it can be daily driven responsibly. The rest is easy.
I feel like thats where I'm headed. I dont own it so that makes the most sense.
lol The parents think im insane. I tell them that Im probably selling the Grand Prix and will likely buy a cheaper more affordable DD some time from now when I have a little saved up and they act like im going to be buying a complete piece of E36M3. I dont know what it is about them... but its like nothing is good to them unless its breaking the bank. lol I just dont think like that...
GI_Drewsifer wrote: May I suggest, selling both and buying something more suited to dual duty? Sell the Pontiac first, get a bead on a good replacement (Some type of 3 series, used Cobalt SS, you know what you need), pick up new car, get rid of civic. It's just crazy enough to work!
EH... Im not hugely keen on dual duty... If Im going to thrash the E36M3 out of it every other weekend, I dont want to expect the same vehicle to get me to work/school in between.
Is this a rational thought? probably not.... but thats just how i think about it lol.
you mention a Cobalt SS... werent those available recently with turbo and LSD?
cxhb wrote:tuna55 wrote:I feel like thats where I'm headed. I dont own it so that makes the most sense. lol The parents think im insane. I tell them that Im probably selling the Grand Prix and will likely buy a cheaper more affordable DD some time from now when I have a little saved up and they act like im going to be buying a complete piece of E36M3. I dont know what it is about them... but its like nothing is good to them unless its breaking the bank. lol I just dont think like that...cxhb wrote: A lot of good response, thanks guys! Selling the civic would definitely be harder than selling the Grand Prix. Honda's arent popular around here anymore. If it isnt a 240sx, no one really cares lol I've definitely got some thinking to do. The enthusiast in me is screaming sell the grand prix. (or both and go the miata route). But the responsible side is yelling sell the civic and grow up... even though really, both sides actually sound kind of responsible by not letting my credit get miffed.It is way more responsible to sell the car you don't own (debt). Does the car move, steer, shift, stop? Then it can be daily driven responsibly. The rest is easy.
They are parents,probably in their 40's...giving older-people advice....
Sell both and look for an older, clean BMW. More practical than a Miata, but still RWD and fun.
JFX001 wrote:cxhb wrote:They are parents,probably in their 40's...giving older-people advice....tuna55 wrote:I feel like thats where I'm headed. I dont own it so that makes the most sense. lol The parents think im insane. I tell them that Im probably selling the Grand Prix and will likely buy a cheaper more affordable DD some time from now when I have a little saved up and they act like im going to be buying a complete piece of E36M3. I dont know what it is about them... but its like nothing is good to them unless its breaking the bank. lol I just dont think like that...cxhb wrote: A lot of good response, thanks guys! Selling the civic would definitely be harder than selling the Grand Prix. Honda's arent popular around here anymore. If it isnt a 240sx, no one really cares lol I've definitely got some thinking to do. The enthusiast in me is screaming sell the grand prix. (or both and go the miata route). But the responsible side is yelling sell the civic and grow up... even though really, both sides actually sound kind of responsible by not letting my credit get miffed.It is way more responsible to sell the car you don't own (debt). Does the car move, steer, shift, stop? Then it can be daily driven responsibly. The rest is easy.
Oh I'm not saying its a bad thing at all if thats what you thought! I mean with age comes experience and sometimes (if you played your cards right) wisdom.
But whats wrong with buying a cheap used car you may have to scrape knuckles on once or twice? Who sets this standard that says you have to make payments on a car that's only 3-5 years old? If you cant afford it... there is other stuff out there. Mid 90's crap boxes lol
In reply to STS_ZX2:
318Ti's always peaked my interest... thats a thought... hmmm...
cxhb wrote:JFX001 wrote:Oh I'm not saying its a bad thing at all if thats what you thought! I mean with age comes experience and sometimes (if you played your cards right) wisdom. But whats wrong with buying a cheap used car you may have to scrape knuckles on once or twice? Who sets this standard that says you have to make payments on a car that's only 3-5 years old? If you cant afford it... there is other stuff out there. Mid 90's crap boxes lolcxhb wrote:They are parents,probably in their 40's...giving older-people advice....tuna55 wrote:I feel like thats where I'm headed. I dont own it so that makes the most sense. lol The parents think im insane. I tell them that Im probably selling the Grand Prix and will likely buy a cheaper more affordable DD some time from now when I have a little saved up and they act like im going to be buying a complete piece of E36M3. I dont know what it is about them... but its like nothing is good to them unless its breaking the bank. lol I just dont think like that...cxhb wrote: A lot of good response, thanks guys! Selling the civic would definitely be harder than selling the Grand Prix. Honda's arent popular around here anymore. If it isnt a 240sx, no one really cares lol I've definitely got some thinking to do. The enthusiast in me is screaming sell the grand prix. (or both and go the miata route). But the responsible side is yelling sell the civic and grow up... even though really, both sides actually sound kind of responsible by not letting my credit get miffed.It is way more responsible to sell the car you don't own (debt). Does the car move, steer, shift, stop? Then it can be daily driven responsibly. The rest is easy.
I was poking fun at my earlier post.
My point(s):
You are in a unique position for someone in College with two vehicles. I also wanted to strip down my SVO,crank down the Koni's, put in the 6 point roll bar and damn the kidneys when I was 21.
But, I am strictly talking about the two current cars. Comfort and reliability go a long way. If you wanted to take a road trip....when you graduate and get a job 3 states away...that kind of stuff.
Plus....you gotta think about the girls....
Again, just my perspective.
cxhb wrote:tuna55 wrote:I feel like thats where I'm headed. I dont own it so that makes the most sense. lol The parents think im insane. I tell them that Im probably selling the Grand Prix and will likely buy a cheaper more affordable DD some time from now when I have a little saved up and they act like im going to be buying a complete piece of E36M3. I dont know what it is about them... but its like nothing is good to them unless its breaking the bank. lol I just dont think like that...cxhb wrote: A lot of good response, thanks guys! Selling the civic would definitely be harder than selling the Grand Prix. Honda's arent popular around here anymore. If it isnt a 240sx, no one really cares lol I've definitely got some thinking to do. The enthusiast in me is screaming sell the grand prix. (or both and go the miata route). But the responsible side is yelling sell the civic and grow up... even though really, both sides actually sound kind of responsible by not letting my credit get miffed.It is way more responsible to sell the car you don't own (debt). Does the car move, steer, shift, stop? Then it can be daily driven responsibly. The rest is easy.
When they retire in debt, tell them to look at how you saved your money by NOT having infinite car payments per their style. Then put your thumb to your nose and go "nyaa nyaa".
And then let them move in with you. In fact, you'd better start dealing with that infinite debt stuff now, otherwise their retirement means your slavery.
tuna55 wrote: And then let them move in with you. In fact, you'd better start dealing with that infinite debt stuff now, otherwise their retirement means your slavery.
<--- had to have a conversation along those lines. "No, I don't think you should move to a more expensive house. You've got no retirement savings to speak of and I don't want to have you move in with me when you're 80." It wasn't comfortable, but it was necessary. I think it was even appreciated.
DILYSI Dave wrote:tuna55 wrote: And then let them move in with you. In fact, you'd better start dealing with that infinite debt stuff now, otherwise their retirement means your slavery.<--- had to have a conversation along those lines. "No, I don't think you should move to a more expensive house. You've got no retirement savings to speak of and I don't want to have you move in with me when you're 80." It wasn't comfortable, but it was necessary. I think it was even appreciated.
I'll be doing this shortly myself. A coworker is in an even worse situation. It's amazing that we learned anything about money with such debt ridden parents...
My parents arent too horribly debt ridden. I would say they are "average". I just dont feel the need to have a semi-modern (05-10) car all the time. Or one bigger than my needs.
I had a friend in college (early 1980s) with a barely running Aston Martin DB-4. His parents frequently asked him why he didn't just sell the thing and buy a newer (but still used) car. He said, "..it's not much harder to push-start an Aston than it is to push-start a Pinto..".
Red Pill. I swear on the grave of my dear departed Euro market E21, Red Pill.
I vote CIVIC. I would sell the Grand Prix add A/C, do a few other mods and drive the hell out of the Civic.
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