The 928 is the most beautiful ugly car I have ever seen.
MitchellC wrote: The 928 is the most beautiful ugly car I have ever seen.
And the only F/R P car I would ever consider.
I'm shaking my head at this $80k 928 idea. They seem like nice cars but... BMW 840i's seem like such a better option and they're a whole pile less than this. Or a whole lot of other cars. Your money, just another opinion.
pres589 wrote: I'm shaking my head at this $80k 928 idea. They seem like nice cars but... BMW 840i's seem like such a better option and they're a whole pile less than this. Or a whole lot of other cars. Your money, just another opinion.
QFT.
http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/cto/1794558110.html http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/ctd/1793592877.html
80k gets you a whole lot of nearly brand new Aston Martin. V12 DB9. Vanquish. Some mid 80's car instead? Why?
$80 grand is used 911 turbo / GT3 / BMW Z8 / Nissan GTR money. These days it would also net you a Ferrari F355, 360 or even a 550 Maranello. There's a hell of a lot of choice at that price range!
For that money, it better have a street address and a mailbox. That's siimply too much to spend on a toy.
ErinS wrote:pres589 wrote: I'm shaking my head at this $80k 928 idea. They seem like nice cars but... BMW 840i's seem like such a better option and they're a whole pile less than this. Or a whole lot of other cars. Your money, just another opinion.QFT. http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/cto/1794558110.html http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/ctd/1793592877.html 80k gets you a whole lot of nearly brand new Aston Martin. V12 DB9. Vanquish. Some mid 80's car instead? Why?
Because the 928 is apparently appreciating at an incredible pace fueled by crazy people like the OP.
When did 928's start sky-rocketing in value? Is it just select models? No offense to the OP. If that's what you want, then do it.
I was thinking more like this;
http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/1771762458.html
Yes, it needs work. But $4k for a BMW 850 project? YUM. I wish I had my life together so I could get in on this.
A lot of you guys don't get it....I mean really don't get it. He isn't looking at just any 928. This is one of the latest and nicest examples available anywhere. You can find 3-5k 928s all day long, but a beater 928 with a lot of issues and high mileage doesn't compare to an excellent GTS.....it just doesn't. There is a reason the prices have stayed so strong.
pres589 wrote: I was thinking more like this; http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/1771762458.html Yes, it needs work. But $4k for a BMW 850 project? YUM. I wish I had my life together so I could get in on this.
This is an LS1 away from being awesome. The V-12 would make a nice coffee table.
Cotton wrote: A lot of you guys don't get it....I mean really don't get it.
Oh... I get it. I don't understand this particular 928 fetish but I have bought some silly crap for waaay too much money before and I know the symptoms.
Cotton wrote: There is a reason the prices have stayed so strong.
Its a Porsche. People just make them up. Seriously, it is completely possible to just make up a number. Look at 911 prices - they range from 13k to unobtainium for the same exact car with a slightly different configuration. "Oh... but this one is a real RS America, you see? ... it has nylon straps for door handles".
Seriously. I'm kidding. If you can afford your eccentricities - run with it. I hope its as enjoyable in your garage as it is to wish for.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:Cotton wrote: A lot of you guys don't get it....I mean really don't get it.Oh... I get it. I don't understand this particular 928 fetish but I have bought some silly crap for waaay too much money before and I know the symptoms. - Blind allegiance to an obscure, unsuccessful model in spite of reason - Insulting detractors need for Viagra because they fail to see your point in a thread where he called himself stupid right in the title... - Willingness to pay Barett Jackson prices sight unseen for something shiny on ebayCotton wrote: There is a reason the prices have stayed so strong.Its a Porsche. People just make them up. Seriously, it is completely possible to just make up a number. Look at 911 prices - they range from 13k to unobtainium for the same exact car with a slightly different configuration. "Oh... but this one is a real RS America, you see? ... it has nylon straps for door handles". Seriously. I'm kidding. If you can afford your eccentricities - run with it. I hope its as enjoyable in your garage as it is to wish for.
So by what your saying a speedster shouldn't be any more expensive than a regular 911. I get it. Any sucker want to trade me a Speedster for my regular 911? It can be a 911 or 356...I'm not picky. How about a 928 GTS for my 944 Turbo? After all it's just a Porsche with a different configuration. Pretty please?
In reply to racinginc215:
Curious since I have very very little time around either, why would you prefer a 928 to an 840/850 in similar condition and spec?
I really like the idea of 928's and they seem like a not bad car but I would say the same of the 8 series as well.
pres589 wrote: In reply to racinginc215: Curious since I have very very little time around either, why would you prefer a 928 to an 840/850 in similar condition and spec? I really like the idea of 928's and they seem like a not bad car but I would say the same of the 8 series as well.
Tom Cruise drove one
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Cotton wrote: So by what your saying a speedster shouldn't be any more expensive than a regular 911. I get it. Any sucker want to trade me a Speedster for my regular 911? It can be a 911 or 356...I'm not picky. How about a 928 GTS for my 944 Turbo? After all it's just a Porsche with a different configuration. Pretty please?
That is EXACTLY what I'm saying RE the Speedster. Its this ridiculous perceived value thing... a Speedster is just a regular 964 vert with a chopped windshield. Why is someone willing to pay double the cost to own one? It is not twice the car - its just slightly different. Porsche is brilliant at this psuedo-model production. When Ford does it we all see that its just a regular Mustang with silly trim... when Porsche does it its hallowed ground. Add another $10k if the assembly line workers signed the inside of the boot!
In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker:
I like the looks of the Speedster a lot better...specifically the 89 with the wide body. I'm not a huge fan of the C2 Speedster. I know it shouldn't be 3-4 times the cost of a simple 911, but it is and people pay it. I probably would too if my bankroll was a lot larger.
The Mustangs.......the special/limited models do command a premium, but it's the old ones. Mach 1s, Bosses, etc from the late 60s and early 70s bring more money. Hell, even the California Special commands a premium these days and it pretty much was a stripe kit and special color.
I think the $60K+ 928 market was largely a 2007 phenomenon which isn't coming back. People might still be asking, but I doubt many are getting that kind of money. Even Excellence which notoriously overvalues Porsches shows $36K as the value for an excellent 1995 model. They allow another 10% for low mileage, so less than $50K should get you an absolute top tier car. And I doubt it will hold that value for long.
But then again, the heart wants what it wants and if you have the cash...
The part about the car being better than any GT you've been in is understood, but it seems to only be compared to other cars designed in the 70's or 80's.
OP, i know you have passion for the car, but have you test drove a newish Aston Martin? (for example, just the first expensive GT that comes to mind) By all means, the 928 might just blow it away, but maybe you just need to compare it to a modern car. (The 928 was first produced in 1977, you could get a 30 year newer design for the same price, of a more expensive brand name... not that brand name matters, but just to make the point)
I think you should buy what you want. It's your money and your choice. I have friends that look at my small collection of cars and say, "why didn't you just buy a Lamborgini" or " why don't you sell x and x and get x".
I spend my money on the cars I want and they can do the same....that's how I look at it.
racinginc215 wrote: Ok you have all convinced me not to buy the 928. I've caved to peer pressure. I will not buy a 928. To the last post . I love the Aston Martins but again the roof line clips my head at an unnatural angle. and of course the Aston is more expensive brand name it was owned by Ford and now TaTa motors India. I wonder what kind of interior they have now with the cow being sacred and all? the 80K ceiling was on the perfect car one that probably does not exist. I'm comfortable with a 50K 928 But if you can find one for 39 with low miles and it's perfect I'll buy. Look I don't have a house payment I don't have car payments. two kids 14 and 9 college is fully funded. and this little windfall for me to play with was from a damn penny stock that took off. I bought in for 2 cents and now it's over 20 bucks. do the math I spent a grand at 2 cents.
Get whatever you want! If it's a $50k 928, no reason to defend that choice. If others think that's a silly decision, so be it. Who cares? And congrats on the windfall. That is a fantastic return!
My only comment is on the 911 bashing. I adore those cars and hope to own one one day. I realize the stereotype that comes along with them, just like with BMW's, which is what I drive today. But, just as you took umbrage with folks bashing your choice, no reason to bash the 911. It is perhaps the most iconic car of our lifetime. I would buy a 993 Turbo tomorrow, if I was in the financial position to do so.
Good luck with the 928 quest. I worked at Brumos Porsche in the late 80's when they had an Atlanta store. I still, to this day, recall driving a Venetian Blue over Parchment 928 with a manual transmission and 3-pc mesh BBS rims. It was both stunning to look at and to drive. What a cool car.
I think part of the problem here was that the people that use this forum mostly do not have anywhere near $80k to spend on a car, and the idea of burning even half that on what sounds like a play thing goes against the grain. They are cool cars, I think they're definitely in that rarefied category with the label of "special" which is hard to define.
You also got me thinking about my own stock portfolio and how I could probably be doing some research there instead of watching Craigslist for Mazda 323's and pushrod V8 Mustangs when I can't really mess with such things for the time being anyway.
I don't think thats it at all... I don't think most people were trashing his choice either. I think paying that for a 928 is silly, probably so a lot of guys on here in glass houses. I mean... have you looked in the reader's ride section. If we pause to add up my receipts I should be committed.
I'm just making conversation, poking a few jokes at someone else's insanity and playing devil's advocate... you don't post on the Internet to keep things to yourself.
The reason that i simply suggested trying newer options is that the Porsche is just... old. 1977 design, refreshed until 1995. Most of them are 3-5k cars, i had assumed the newest, nicest one would be 10k to maybe 14k.
This thread shocked me. Something that's usually as cheap as an early Miata being priced up to 80 for a 20 year old model... because it has a manual, more horsepower and a better interior (brakes, ect too, but the basic car is still the same)? Just don't get it.
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