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Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/26/15 3:55 p.m.
chili_head wrote:
Keith Tanner wrote: ...I'm having trouble coming up with a relatively modern supercharged production car that uses an air/air, actually.
R53/R52 MINI Cooper S Eaton M45 with A2A

I'll add the Thunderbird SC.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/26/15 4:01 p.m.

Good examples - although a 20-year-old Super Coupe flirts with the definition of "relatively modern"

2002maniac
2002maniac Dork
6/26/15 4:11 p.m.

Whatever happened to Taiden? Have not seen him post for a while...

frenchyd
frenchyd New Reader
7/3/15 10:56 a.m.

In reply to Taiden: Superchargers are easier for us older luddites to work with. Plus they typically don't come on with a big bang like a Turbo can do. Too large of a supercharger runs cooler but weighs a tiny bit more along with more drag. Mechanical alignment is straight forward. Since we already understand carbs the only trick is to get them rich enough from the start. In a pure race environment we will often switch to alcohol to provide plenty of cooling/anti-detonation etc. Often with carbs it's simply the need to be richer and drilling out jets is a vey cheap way of getting rich enough. The formula for size is straight forward and since we are working with alcohol a lot there is a broad working range. I once got very lazy and simply added a little nitro to deal with a too large jet size.

In addition it's not like playing multilevel chess to get them working. For street driving you will find a significant amount of grunt increase (SWAG about 40%) right off idle with a supercharger you won't find with a turbo.

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